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Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) #4535556
10/06/17 04:19 PM
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Just a question for discussion... curious to hear different perspectives.

If you do the math based on Walmart oil prices, a dino oil change and decent filter comes to $18-20.
A syn oil change and filter comes to $26-30. Rebates and sales do exist, but I've assumed off the shelf prices.

Example:
MS5k for $14.44, and a filter (ACDelco for my application) for $4.29= $18.73. If you run this combination for 5,000 miles, it comes out to .37 cents per mile.

PP for $22.97 and a filter for $4.29 = $27.26. This oil must be run for 7,502 miles to break even (at that same cost of .37 cents per mile).

Although they each could likely be extended further, assume no UOA is done. Which would you choose?
(Let's say a mixture of city and highway driving).


2012 Toyota Camry 2.5 30,000 mi
2015 Chevy Silverado LT Z71 5.3 V8 30,000 mi
2010 Toyota Sienna 3.5 V6 150,000 mi
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535566
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If you can't find quality Full Synthetic for under 20.25 you're not shopping.


2004 Corolla 124831
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535567
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Synthetic all the way. Better add pack over those 7.5k miles. Though because of fuel dilution in my application and being a certified BITOG hoarder, I can dump syn at 5k and still be ahead. Filters I'll run for 10k if its a fram ultra, M1, RP etc...


2004 Toyota Solara SE 2.4 2AZFE
182,000 miles
Castrol Magnatec Semi-Syn 5W30
Royal Purple 20-400 oversize 2nd run
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535570
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For the cars in your sig, the Sienna can probably do 10k on any synthetic, even store brand smile

Your other two cars are pre-dexos GM cars, so they can handle whatever OCI is suggested by the OLM, and they can do it on dino smile

Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535571
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I got a 5 Qt jug of QSUD for 17.45 at advance auto yesterday.

Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535578
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Buy the syn at WM and change it every 5,000. No Uoa. Ymmv

Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: FZ1] #4535589
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Originally Posted By: FZ1
Buy the syn at WM and change it every 5,000. No Uoa. Ymmv


Honestly this just makes too much sense!


2004 Corolla 124831
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535593
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popcorn

How about VWB for 7500.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535594
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Subaru recommends synth for my engine, so it gets synth.


2014 Forester XT, 86000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4535599
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
If you can't find quality Full Synthetic for under 20.25 you're not shopping.


Not arguing there are deals to be had, but I'm not averse paying $26 for Castrol Edge HM 5w20. Did very well in my Matrix.

OTOH, I am refraining from buying too much QSUD from Advance... $9 for 5qt of a full syn is hard to pass up!


'90 Z32 - PP HM 10w30
'98 ZJ - PYB HM 10w40
'02 G20 - QS UD 5w30
'09 Matrix - QS UD 0w20
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535600
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I'm thinking through the same thing for my '15 Cherokee. 5k on dino or follow the OLM with synthetic (OLM is programmed for dino, but I don't want to go 7-8k on dino). Using a Mopar filter either way. I'd save about 6 cents a mile if I do 8k on synthetic assuming I can get 6 quarts for $30 or less.


15 Jeep KL Limited V6: Formula Shell 5W20
07 LR3 SE V8: Maxlife 5W30
05 Jeep KJ Limited: PHM 5W30
96 Jeep XJ Country: STP HM 5W30 (winter)
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535606
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the costs of the materials is inconsequential to the labor costs.

the only way it works out and is justifiable is if you recategoize oil changes as recreational and you would pay to change oil for fun.

Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: THafeez] #4535610
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Originally Posted By: THafeez
Synthetic all the way. Better add pack over those 7.5k miles. Though because of fuel dilution in my application and being a certified BITOG hoarder, I can dump syn at 5k and still be ahead. Filters I'll run for 10k if its a fram ultra, M1, RP etc...


Congratulations.

Acceptance is the first step to recovery.

Although I am surprised at keeping filters for two OCI. I would never consoder doing that except on my motorcycles.


Multiple Diesel and Gasoline vehicles
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535613
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I was doing 5Kmi OCIs with conventional oil, but decided to do extended (7.%Kmi) changes with synthetic. The less time I spend under a car the better.


2015 Kia Optima EX 2.4L GDI
2015 Chevy Volt
Re: Dino every 5k or syn every 7.5k? (consumer math!) [Re: TmanP] #4535629
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Something is wrong with me. I love changing oil as much as I like having sex. And I really like having sex with my wife.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K
Amsoil in all engines, transmissions and differentials

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