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Dealer oil change #4508833
09/06/17 09:12 AM
09/06/17 09:12 AM
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Massachusetts
turtlevette Offline OP
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http://amp.timeinc.net/thedrive/news/140...ride?source=dam

This happens regularly but nobody can prove it.



USA-1
Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4508862
09/06/17 09:36 AM
09/06/17 09:36 AM
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Onondaga County
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I'm sure it does happen a lot more than people think. Seems that it is getting publicized more since dashcams are more common and people are able to capture it on video.

I solve this by not having vehicles that people would want to joyride smile


18 Forester 2.5I 6M
00 Jeep Cherokee
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Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4508886
09/06/17 10:01 AM
09/06/17 10:01 AM
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Colorado
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Colorado
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
http://amp.timeinc.net/thedrive/news/140...ride?source=dam

This happens regularly but nobody can prove it.



All you need is some sort of tracker, or the insurance plug-in that keeps track of engine parameters, or a quick look at your odometer when you drop it off.

It would be a juicy day to prove that sort of thing and sue the dealership.


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4508896
09/06/17 10:20 AM
09/06/17 10:20 AM
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MD
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My cousin had his VW in for service under warranty and the service writer drove it home for lunch and totaled it.
The joke was they owed more for it than the insurance paid and the dealer did not want to make good on the extra.
I believe in the end my cousin just took a bath on it. Nice!
That said it was still under warranty and less than 2 years old wink

Re: Dealer oil change [Re: Kuato] #4508900
09/06/17 10:23 AM
09/06/17 10:23 AM
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Illinois
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Illinois
Li
Originally Posted By: Kuato
It would be a juicy day to prove that sort of thing and sue the dealership.


Car dealerships are threatened (and hit) with lawsuits all the time.

It's just another day/week/month to them.


2004 Silverado - on its 3rd Jasper engine in less than one year.
Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4508903
09/06/17 10:25 AM
09/06/17 10:25 AM
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NW Indiana
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NW Indiana
If you can not do your own work expect this.

It is a real first world problem....

Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4508924
09/06/17 10:40 AM
09/06/17 10:40 AM
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Occupied Virginia
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The problem is (aside from the curb rash on the wheels when the guy tried to leave in this case), what harm was done? I'm not saying I agree with it at all (not a bit) but that's all this or any dealership will say if they get caught driving a customer's car off the lot. There's no way to prove that any kind of actual abuse happened, and if so, what damage might have been done. The customer can't prove anything 'bad' happened to the car even with proof that any rational person would normally accept. The deck is totally stacked in their favor. It's ridiculous but it's reality.

Re: Dealer oil change [Re: Bottom_Feeder] #4508948
09/06/17 11:12 AM
09/06/17 11:12 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
The problem is (aside from the curb rash on the wheels when the guy tried to leave in this case), what harm was done? I'm not saying I agree with it at all (not a bit) but that's all this or any dealership will say if they get caught driving a customer's car off the lot. There's no way to prove that any kind of actual abuse happened, and if so, what damage might have been done. The customer can't prove anything 'bad' happened to the car even with proof that any rational person would normally accept. The deck is totally stacked in their favor. It's ridiculous but it's reality.

A cheap scangauge2 can record previous trip max rpm, speed, water temperature, and could be set up to record calculated max hp used. Of course they could unplug it first but it would show they probably were trying to hide something.
That said, a car with an auto transmission is pretty idiot proof and few shots of WOT doesn't hurt anything in a car. A car with a clutch could have that wrecked in a few poor attempts at a burn out but I doubt many techs would go that far...
I just leave my scangauge plugged in all the time and one tech hit 3800 rpm once in my car! wink


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Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4508955
09/06/17 11:23 AM
09/06/17 11:23 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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There is another thread about this. The owner is on this forum.


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Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4508981
09/06/17 11:46 AM
09/06/17 11:46 AM
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New England
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New England
This made me think of the SNL sketch in which Chris Farley, playing a drinker who is in and out of rehab constantly, runs into his sister in Hawaii while he's supposed to be babysitting her kids in California...


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Re: Dealer oil change [Re: mightymousetech] #4509062
09/06/17 01:07 PM
09/06/17 01:07 PM
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Posts: 3,686
Massachusetts
turtlevette Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
There is another thread about this. The owner is on this forum.


Do you have a link to that one?


USA-1
Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4509089
09/06/17 01:30 PM
09/06/17 01:30 PM
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Posts: 717
Canada
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Canada


I once put "no personal use or road test authorized by owner" on a work order at a GM dealer,
the service writer refused to put the car thru the shop! Rotten!

During a GM warranty Transmission service they claimed they "road tested" the car and found no problem,
a check of the odometer showed they drove only 1 mile!

> If a really have to go to the dealer, I take a picture of the dash odometer reading while
on the lot and see what happens after that!

Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4509111
09/06/17 01:56 PM
09/06/17 01:56 PM
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NY, USA, etc.
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This is what happened the last time I brought my car in for warranty work:

http://www.yourcobalt.com/forums/chevy-c...-albany-ny.html

Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4509117
09/06/17 02:08 PM
09/06/17 02:08 PM
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Dallas,Tx USA
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The owner actually pulled into the fast food parking lot and caught the tech there with her car? Oh goodness!!


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
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Re: Dealer oil change [Re: turtlevette] #4509125
09/06/17 02:19 PM
09/06/17 02:19 PM
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Phoenix, AZ
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I'd be livid. As Miller88 said, I don't have any cars anyone would want to joyride anyways.

But my dad back in the day had a beautiful cherry red Chevy pickup. Lowered, he custom painted it, loud exhaust etc. and took it to the car wash. Then he hears a V8 screaming outside and tires screeching. After it pulled out of the car wash an employee got in it to move it to the drying and detailing section. He did a 20' burnout in it. My dad went out there screaming and running, the car wash guy parked it ahead and ran off.

They gave my dad 5 free car washes (which he obviously didn't take them up on their offer).


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2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 230k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
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