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Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. #4505240
09/02/17 09:48 AM
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My Honda PCX scooter, with Mobil fs 0w-40, smooth as silk.

I changed to EP 5-30, rough, very discernable rough.

Is it normal? the scooter recommends 10W-30.

Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: dole] #4505508
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Give it time. My car usually is a bit louder right after an oil change but 1000-2000 kms in it quiets down.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: dole] #4505556
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The Mobil 0W-40 is a far superior oil to the EP.


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: dole] #4505914
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It wants a 10w oil

Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: Rolla07] #4505918
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Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Give it time. My car usually is a bit louder right after an oil change but 1000-2000 kms in it quiets down.

I remember having a similar issue in couple of my Corollas. But then I discovered 0w30/0w40 oils. Never had an issue again
banana happy banana


2000 Lexus GS300-361k
1999 Lexus GS400-213k
2006 Toyota Camry-187k
2006 Toyota Highlander Hybrid-125k
2009 Scion xB-120k
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Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: CT8] #4506010
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Originally Posted By: CT8
The Mobil 0W-40 is a far superior oil to the EP.


In what way? Different for different engines, but superior? I don't think so.


2007 Ford Fusion 233,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 58K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: tig1] #4506081
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: CT8
The Mobil 0W-40 is a far superior oil to the EP.


In what way? Different for different engines, but superior? I don't think so.


I would have to agree with CT8 that, all things equal, the 0w-40 is a superior lube. This is due to the higher level of AW additives allowed by both the grade and the fact that it is a Euro oil, as well as the more difficult to obtain Euro approvals.

Now, does that mean it is offers a tangible benefit in the OP's application? Probably not. But it is possible the different chemistry and blend characteristics have resulted in different acoustics.


2018 RAM 1500 Big Horn EcoDiesel
2016 Grand Cherokee SRT
Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: OVERKILL] #4506107
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: CT8
The Mobil 0W-40 is a far superior oil to the EP.


In what way? Different for different engines, but superior? I don't think so.


I would have to agree with CT8 that, all things equal, the 0w-40 is a superior lube. This is due to the higher level of AW additives allowed by both the grade and the fact that it is a Euro oil, as well as the more difficult to obtain Euro approvals.

Now, does that mean it is offers a tangible benefit in the OP's application? Probably not. But it is possible the different chemistry and blend characteristics have resulted in different acoustics.


Bingo laugh


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: FZ1] #4506152
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Originally Posted By: FZ1
It wants a 10w oil
P.S. It's a Scooter. It needs thicker low end 10w-20w. That's the problem.

Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: FZ1] #4506156
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Originally Posted By: FZ1
Originally Posted By: FZ1
It wants a 10w oil
P.S. It's a Scooter. It needs thicker low end 10w-20w. That's the problem.


What?


2018 RAM 1500 Big Horn EcoDiesel
2016 Grand Cherokee SRT
Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: OVERKILL] #4506352
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Needs a thicker oil on the low end to run more smoothly.

Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: OVERKILL] #4509511
09/06/17 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: CT8
The Mobil 0W-40 is a far superior oil to the EP.


In what way? Different for different engines, but superior? I don't think so.


I would have to agree with CT8 that, all things equal, the 0w-40 is a superior lube. This is due to the higher level of AW additives allowed by both the grade and the fact that it is a Euro oil, as well as the more difficult to obtain Euro approvals.

Now, does that mean it is offers a tangible benefit in the OP's application? Probably not. But it is possible the different chemistry and blend characteristics have resulted in different acoustics.


What I mean is if an engine calls for 0-20EP, then 0-40 may give inferior results to the 0-20EP. Same with an engine calling for 0-40. If you use 0-20EP you may have an inferior result with 0-20EP. It's not apples to apples.


2007 Ford Fusion 233,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 58K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Mobil EP 5W-30, strange riding experience. [Re: OVERKILL] #4509615
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"Acoustics" on my eBoost to date: (lowest Db on top)

M1 Formula M 5w40
M1 EP 5w30
PUP 5w30
M1 5w30

So the 40 has been the lowest noise ...


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