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Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter #4495515
08/22/17 06:04 PM
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Pylesville, MD
bandz7 Offline OP
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In a local auto parts store recently and saw this. Considered it cool enough to share...


1986 GMC Jimmy S-15 Chevron Delo 15W-40
2001 Corvette Z06 PU 5W-30 RT6 5W-40/MoS2
2003 VW Jetta TDI RT6 5W-40
2010 Nissan Murano PU 5W-30
Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: bandz7] #4495519
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Thanks for sharing.

Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: bandz7] #4495520
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A clear oil filter would be neat to watch in action. Fuel filters used to be clear for the longest time on older stuff I recall. I know this is just for display, but, still, a clear filter would be neat to try just once!


2004 Toyota Tacoma 3.4 V6: Mobil 1 AFE 0W-30, FRAM TG-3600 filter
1969 Mustang Mach 1 5.8 V8: PYB 10W-30 Napa Gold 1515 filter
1997 Ford F-250 HD 7.3 Powerstroke V8: T6 5W-40 FRAM PH-3786 filter
Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: bandz7] #4495525
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Mobil's marketing dept. shouldn't show this. It reveals its a part-synthetic filter media, not full-synthetic glass fiber media like it should be.
Not a fully premium oil filter, yet marketed and priced that way. They rely on fooling people. A top-of-the-line oil filter would have a wire-backed full-synthetic media.

Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: oil_film_movies] #4495532
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Mobil's marketing dept. shouldn't show this. It reveals its a part-synthetic filter media, not full-synthetic glass fiber media like it should be.
Not a fully premium oil filter, yet marketed and priced that way. They rely on fooling people. A top-of-the-line oil filter would have a wire-backed full-synthetic media.


Read Fleetguards website about their thoughts on glass fiber media. Very interesting.

Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: oil_film_movies] #4495536
08/22/17 06:19 PM
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I have cut a few open. - That material is far tougher than many filters out there.

Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: bandz7] #4495539
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bandz7 Offline OP
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This filter is probably very old. Some of the filters in this store have been there for probably 10 years


1986 GMC Jimmy S-15 Chevron Delo 15W-40
2001 Corvette Z06 PU 5W-30 RT6 5W-40/MoS2
2003 VW Jetta TDI RT6 5W-40
2010 Nissan Murano PU 5W-30
Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: oil_film_movies] #4495541
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Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Mobil's marketing dept. shouldn't show this. It reveals its a part-synthetic filter media, not full-synthetic glass fiber media like it should be.


Only a trained BITOG guy would know that ... they don't count on that happening.

Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: bandz7] #4495570
08/22/17 07:24 PM
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There are some who feel a blend is best as the non synthetic can absorb and synthetic cannot.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: ZeeOSix] #4495589
08/22/17 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Mobil's marketing dept. shouldn't show this. It reveals its a part-synthetic filter media, not full-synthetic glass fiber media like it should be.

Only a trained BITOG guy would know that ... they don't count on that happening.

ExxonMobil has always listed on their website (and continue to do so today) that the filter media is a blend:

Quote:
Our advanced performance oil filters use synthetic blend media, which leave your vehicle with cleaner oil and an engine that performs better and lasts longer.


It's said that as far back as I can remember.


1994 BMW 530i, 241K
1996 Honda Accord, 267K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 409K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: kschachn] #4495592
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Mobil's marketing dept. shouldn't show this. It reveals its a part-synthetic filter media, not full-synthetic glass fiber media like it should be.

Only a trained BITOG guy would know that ... they don't count on that happening.

ExxonMobil has always listed on their website (and continue to do so today) that the filter media is a blend:

Quote:
Our advanced performance oil filters use synthetic blend media, which leave your vehicle with cleaner oil and an engine that performs better and lasts longer.


It's said that as far back as I can remember, at least back when they were made with white cans.

Anyone who goes to Mobil's website to research the filter is close to a trained BITOG guy.

The cutaway display is pretty much for the oil filter noobs, which is 99% of the population. smile

Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: bandz7] #4495616
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This document from 2007 clearly shows the M1 EP having synthetic blend media and is probably very similar to the transparent shell oil filter with a base end bypass model. I don't think I've ever seen a cut open M1 filter with a media tear which shows the proper syn blend media is quite appropriate for an extended FCI. Wire backing is certainly not required.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz2NTEAdC4vxdDNXV05Yc0FHUGczaVRTeF9qb0FuTWt2bXRF/view?usp=drivesdk


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Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: ZeeOSix] #4495625
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Anyone who goes to Mobil's website to research the filter is close to a trained BITOG guy.

The cutaway display is pretty much for the oil filter noobs, which is 99% of the population. smile

Well perhaps, but likewise those noobs aren't going to know or care either way.


1994 BMW 530i, 241K
1996 Honda Accord, 267K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 409K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 280K
Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: kschachn] #4495632
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Anyone who goes to Mobil's website to research the filter is close to a trained BITOG guy.

The cutaway display is pretty much for the oil filter noobs, which is 99% of the population. smile

Well perhaps, but likewise those noobs aren't going to know or care either way.

Noobs take more interest in a cool cutaway, that's why they exist. Might lure in some new customers. smile

Re: Mobil 1 Cut Away Display Filter [Re: Nyogtha] #4495636
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Couple of comments on Mobil's advertising. The efficiency bar graph note says "ISO 4548-12 Multi-Pass Test Method PH8A Type". PH8A Type ... ?

Also, they don't point out the ADBV in the cutaway - important to point out IMO. Guess the ad guys never pass this stuff past the engineers for review before publicising.



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