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#4462510 - 07/18/17 06:54 AM About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection
CrackyWainwright Offline


Registered: 01/15/16
Posts: 122
Loc: Alabama
My son is off at college, so I don't have as much maintenance access to the 2012 KIA Sportage 2.4L he drives. This vehicle has 91,000 miles, and I'm about to change the oil with a fill of M1 AP in the suggested 5W-20 along with the M1 AP filter. WM has the oil for $40 now and the filter for $13.

We'll see if I have the nerve to let that go one full year. For a few years I've been using Castrol Edge EP in our vehicles along with a Fram Ultra 15,000 mile filter, but I get nervous at about the 10,000 mile mark when the oil gets awfully dark and dirty looking.

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#4462518 - 07/18/17 07:04 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
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Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6439
Loc: Texas
Lots of folks run 10k oil 5k. Lots of folks run 15k oil 5k to 10k. But there is little interest here wrt running 20k oil 10k to 15k ... and mention the other 5k gained for so much more money. (And are not even long OCI users)
I'm waiting on price like others - and will follow OLM when it is cheap enough ... probably one vehicle only ...

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#4462544 - 07/18/17 07:33 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
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Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 4216
Loc: Atlanta
The UOA’s may be interesting. There doesn’t appear to be anything magical in it detected by a consumer level VOA.

I have a Jug of 0/20 for the Civic, with 10.00 off / gift cards it is cheap enough to try. I’ll sample it along to way to see if I run it 20,000.

I think the price point at which this will sell is low $30.00 range. The average mileage has been creeping up, last I looked it was around 18,000 miles a year.
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#4462594 - 07/18/17 08:37 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
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Does the kia eat any oil? Will he top off?
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#4462601 - 07/18/17 08:44 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
JustN89 Offline


Registered: 06/27/17
Posts: 477
Loc: DFW
This is just personal opinion here but with the issues that Hyundai/Kia have had with that 2.4L engine, I wouldn't try to do any extended OCI especially considering that they have upped the warranty (on certain components) to 120K miles. You won't want to exceed the manufacturer's suggested OCI. His Optima falls right in the sweet spot of that recall (2011-2013 for the Optimas). My suggestion would be to just supply him with the 30 dollars or whatever it costs for his local Hyundai/Kia dealership to do the oil change and schedule the appointment for him if needed. Again, just my two cents.

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#4462616 - 07/18/17 08:58 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: JustN89]
Ddubya Offline


Registered: 09/15/16
Posts: 51
Loc: DFW, TX
Originally Posted By: JustN89
This is just personal opinion here but with the issues that Hyundai/Kia have had with that 2.4L engine, I wouldn't try to do any extended OCI especially considering that they have upped the warranty (on certain components) to 120K miles. You won't want to exceed the manufacturer's suggested OCI. His Optima falls right in the sweet spot of that recall (2011-2013 for the Optimas). My suggestion would be to just supply him with the 30 dollars or whatever it costs for his local Hyundai/Kia dealership to do the oil change and schedule the appointment for him if needed. Again, just my two cents.


Assuming the vehicle is still covered under the extended or original warranty, I think this is very sound advice. Philosophically, (with a different vehicle) I think there is nothing wrong with your logic. Under similar circumstances, I am about to do the same thing with our Cadillac DTS, except with Castrol Edge EP and a Fram Ultra filter. It has a 7.5qt sump and I'll also run 1 can of Liqui Moly Oil Saver as it has shown a definite benefit in quelling an oil leak that some Northstars get and are famously expensive to repair correctly. I plan to run it out to 18 months or 10-12K miles, whichever comes first.
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#4462629 - 07/18/17 09:22 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
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Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9421
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: CrackyWainwright
My son is off at college, so I don't have as much maintenance access to the 2012 KIA Sportage 2.4L he drives. This vehicle has 91,000 miles, and I'm about to change the oil with a fill of M1 AP in the suggested 5W-20 along with the M1 AP filter. WM has the oil for $40 now and the filter for $13.

We'll see if I have the nerve to let that go one full year. For a few years I've been using Castrol Edge EP in our vehicles along with a Fram Ultra 15,000 mile filter, but I get nervous at about the 10,000 mile mark when the oil gets awfully dark and dirty looking.

My daughter drives the Accord out on the east coast for grad school, so I have a similar situation. I always use M1 EP which is also good for one year (and 15,000 miles). Your son drives over 15,000 miles in that year to make AP worth the money?
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#4462671 - 07/18/17 09:58 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
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#4462674 - 07/18/17 10:01 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
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Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2571
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: CrackyWainwright
My son is off at college, so I don't have as much maintenance access to the 2012 KIA Sportage 2.4L he drives. This vehicle has 91,000 miles, and I'm about to change the oil with a fill of M1 AP in the suggested 5W-20 along with the M1 AP filter. WM has the oil for $40 now and the filter for $13.

We'll see if I have the nerve to let that go one full year. For a few years I've been using Castrol Edge EP in our vehicles along with a Fram Ultra 15,000 mile filter, but I get nervous at about the 10,000 mile mark when the oil gets awfully dark and dirty looking.


Fram Ultra is now a 20,000 mile oil filter, according to Fram.

Your past habit of using a Fram Ultra oil filter is the right one. The fact that you downgraded to a M1 AP oil filter for the Kia is unnecessary.

I wouldn't take any oil past 1 year, and will change in 6 months if short-tripping at least half the time.
M1 Ann Prot does look like it can easily do 1 year in most cases. Mobil never showed what the pistons looked like in their test of the 3 DI-turbo engines for 1 year, an omission that was suspect. I guess they still feel the ringlands are OK after a year and 20k miles.

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#4462677 - 07/18/17 10:05 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
Brons2 Offline


Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 3042
Loc: Austin, Texas
Did the 2012 Sportage use direct injection 2.4 or port injection 2.4? I know that there was a period when some Kia models had DI and some didn't. (now they're all DI but that's beside the point)

If it's the former, I would not extend OCI for a year, these things are spinning rod bearings left and right. I'm using 5w30 in mine and hoping that makes a difference.

The port injected 2.4s are more reliable. I have M1EP in the Rondo and sent it off with stepdaughter to college. I will change in June 2018.
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#4462680 - 07/18/17 10:06 AM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
Brons2 Offline


Registered: 09/16/03
Posts: 3042
Loc: Austin, Texas
Yes, it has DI

http://www.kiamedia.com/us/en/models/sportage/2012

I don't recommend using M1 AP.
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#4462817 - 07/18/17 12:38 PM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
Yah-Tah-Hey Offline


Registered: 05/26/14
Posts: 3415
Loc: Columbus,Nebraska
Use Mobil I AFE or perhaps EP. No senses on paying that much for an oil that isn't going to benefit you much better than those oils.

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#4462863 - 07/18/17 01:23 PM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4429
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
How many miles are driven in the 1 year?
Your previous oil and filter were a great choice, and unless being driven more than 15000 miles in the year, you are probably wasting money on the AP oil, and are definitely downgrading your oil filter.

Plus if you get worried about the oil color, what are you going to do when the AP gets "dirty looking" as well.
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#4462960 - 07/18/17 02:43 PM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
bigj_16 Offline


Registered: 07/03/17
Posts: 1271
Loc: Douglas County, Colorado
One thing about the $10 e-gift card on the M1AP. It is for the first 30,000 customers. The offer runs out in September, the 8th, I believe.

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#4462991 - 07/18/17 03:03 PM Re: About to Try Mobil 1 Annual Protection [Re: CrackyWainwright]
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Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 366
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Both my 2009 Sonata's oci is 15 000 miles and no problems at all. I have done about 10 UOA and everything shown the engines are in excellant condition.
Before starting thses long oil drain intervals I first took many many pictures of the cylinder heads and cam to compare later to look for excessive wear...nothing.
My driving is about 70 % highway.
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