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2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl #4452478
07/07/17 03:23 PM
07/07/17 03:23 PM
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Texas
Tdog02 Offline OP
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I tried search function and have just resigned myself to be that guy on the forum.

I am doing an oil change on the Venza I have with right at 90K mileage. This is the wife's daily driver and is getting routinely short tripped with maybe one longer drive a week. In Texas with the hottest time of year for us I was going to use 5w-30 instead of the 5w-20 listed in the manual. We have had it for about 45k miles and I am wanting to simplify my oil stash and get out of the 20 weights.

I already know the internet won't end and kittens won't die from using a different weight... what I'm looking for is some real world knowledge of the 4 cylinder Toyota 2.7 and if it will tolerate the slightly higher grade without issue. I have not found luck on this forum or on any search engine about folks running heavier weight.

Choice of oil this time is Mobil 1 HM 5w-30


09 Venza 2.7 100k 5w-30 Magnatec
16 F150 2.7TT 40k 5w-30 Magnatec
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452487
07/07/17 03:30 PM
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Fort Worth TX
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Fort Worth TX
I personally run a lighter weight in my wifes mini van ( calls for 5w30). This is because the van is also short tripped a lot. I run a thicker grade in my truck that calls for 5w30.

You wont have any issues running the thicker oil in your toyota but being a short tripper I would stay with a 0/5w20


2011 Prius 96k miles RLI 5w20
97 Toy T100 4x4: amsoil 0w20 242k Miles
04 Toy Sienna awd: Pennzoil 0w20 281k Miles
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452494
07/07/17 03:38 PM
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There isn't much difference between an xw20 and xw30.
xw20 has HTHS=2.7
xw30 has HTHS=3.0
These numbers can vary, yet they are close. kv100 similarly close.
Here, TDog02's oil, M1 HM 5w30 is 3.1, still not a lot of difference.

In a cold climate, 0w20 is best to stick with.
Cold flow in TX isn't a big issue at all, so the 5w30 will work.

Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452501
07/07/17 03:43 PM
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Phoenix, Arizona - USA
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First off - how does one build a 2.7 cyl engine?

JK.. grin

All joking aside, my 2010 Fusion, with the 2.5 liter engine also calls for 5w20 and I run 5w30 in the summer heat here in Phoenix. The engine doesn't seem to have a problem with it. I realize that your engine is not the same one in my car, but considering their similar size, I would imagine that the overall impact would be somewhat similar. You should realistically be able to get away with it.


2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 266,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 60,000mi
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452512
07/07/17 03:59 PM
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Texas
Tdog02 Offline OP
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Thanks for the responses, I didn't think it would be an issue but since I have to fuel my oil porn addiction I thought I would ask. I laughed at the 2.7cyl thing and then looked at what I typed. Brain was working faster than the fingers and filled in the blanks!


09 Venza 2.7 100k 5w-30 Magnatec
16 F150 2.7TT 40k 5w-30 Magnatec
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452518
07/07/17 04:05 PM
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S California
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Mobil 5w-30 would be an excellent choice. It's a very good oil, very commonly stocked everywhere and sometimes on sale.

I understand that Xw-20 oils do a good job but I would run an Xw-30. It's just a personal preference. I can not justify my preference with lab results or personal experience other than it appears to work for me in the desert including towing a horse trailer over some bumpy dirt roads for long distances in the hottest weather out here. In other words an Xw-20 might do as well but by the time I'd figure it out it would be too late if I was wrong.

Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452530
07/07/17 04:18 PM
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MTL, CANADA
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Toyota's run on anything lol...5w30 will be fine smile if for nothing other than meeting ur need to stock 1 weight, no difference.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452545
07/07/17 04:29 PM
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San Antonio, TX
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Originally Posted By: Tdog02
I tried search function and have just resigned myself to be that guy on the forum.

I am doing an oil change on the Venza I have with right at 90K mileage. This is the wife's daily driver and is getting routinely short tripped with maybe one longer drive a week. In Texas with the hottest time of year for us I was going to use 5w-30 instead of the 5w-20 listed in the manual. We have had it for about 45k miles and I am wanting to simplify my oil stash and get out of the 20 weights.

I already know the internet won't end and kittens won't die from using a different weight... what I'm looking for is some real world knowledge of the 4 cylinder Toyota 2.7 and if it will tolerate the slightly higher grade without issue. I have not found luck on this forum or on any search engine about folks running heavier weight.

Choice of oil this time is Mobil 1 HM 5w-30

Not the same engine but my wife's yaris 1.5 runs 5w30 year round in texas. Oil filter is clean at the end of a 5k mile run,


1984 Mercedes-Benz 300SD - 100k
1995 F150 XL 4.9 reg cab 5MT - 251k 5w30
2016 Mazda6 Touring 6MT - 57k 10w30
2006 Buick Lucerne CXL 3.8 31k 5w30
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452547
07/07/17 04:31 PM
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You can go with Pennzoil Platinum or Ultra 5w30 which are on the thinner side of 30 weight oils. Kind of like a thick 20 weight oil. That's what I'd do.

Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: SatinSilver] #4452550
07/07/17 04:38 PM
07/07/17 04:38 PM
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Fort Worth TX
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Fort Worth TX
Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
You can go with Pennzoil Platinum or Ultra 5w30 which are on the thinner side of 30 weight oils. Kind of like a thick 20 weight oil. That's what I'd do.


What info are you basing this on? I have 12 jugs of PUP 5w20 and 3 of 5w30 and would love to know the HTHS of these.


2011 Prius 96k miles RLI 5w20
97 Toy T100 4x4: amsoil 0w20 242k Miles
04 Toy Sienna awd: Pennzoil 0w20 281k Miles
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4452756
07/07/17 07:56 PM
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Crawfordville FL
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I run M1 HM 10w-30 in a 3.0 that has 5w-20 on the oil fill cap. Engine loves it. I'm in N FL and I promise it is just as hot here


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 181 miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4476510
08/01/17 12:03 PM
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Texas
Tdog02 Offline OP
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Update: I changed the oil to the M1 HM 5w-30 and somewhere on the internet a kitten died.

Just kidding about the kitten. Since the change the engine has quietened down. It is very noticeable to me. There was a lot of valve train noise on start up before the 5w-30 (It has had a steady diet of 5w-20 Toyota oil since we bought it used a few years ago). With the extended 100 degree summer days in Texas it is working just fine. I can't say I've noticed a change in the MPG's as it mostly sees short trips and the econ monitor stays around 21-22mpg.

I plan on running this about 7K miles and then sending off a UOA to get an idea about where this engine is and how it is doing. I am really liking the Venza and it is a solid family car with room to actually haul stuff if needed.


09 Venza 2.7 100k 5w-30 Magnatec
16 F150 2.7TT 40k 5w-30 Magnatec
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4476582
08/01/17 01:20 PM
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Douglas County, Colorado
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What about your F-150?

Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4476617
08/01/17 01:55 PM
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Texas
Tdog02 Offline OP
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F150 has M1 10w-30 in it right now. I plan on doing a UOA on it this change and see what the engine is doing. It should be past any break in period now. I really want to stock up on M1 HM 5w-30 and run it in both vehicles. I'm a little old school and really think 10w-30 is the best for us down south without the cold flow problems but still a little concerned about going over 5w for the Toyota.

The only reason I am leaning 5w-30 for both vehicles is the best compromise based on vehicle needs (5w-30 speced on the Ford). And I can use it for all my power equipment as well. I am hoping for 5k intervals on the truck and 7500k intervals on the Venza.


09 Venza 2.7 100k 5w-30 Magnatec
16 F150 2.7TT 40k 5w-30 Magnatec
Re: 2009 Toyota Venza 2.7cyl [Re: Tdog02] #4476732
08/01/17 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tdog02
...and 7500k intervals on the Venza.

7500K miles. Nice. So where can I get an oil to last me 7.5 million miles on single oil change??? Hehe jk.

My 2.7L Toyota runs on Pennzoil Euro 0w40 now. Really nice and quiet. No ill effects or drop in MPG compared to Pennzoil 0w20 from previous OCI. This Tacoma is short tripped, so 18mpg in the summer, and 16mpg in winter is norm.

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