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Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition #4445186
06/29/17 05:03 PM
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2011 King Ranch Ford Expedition EL 4x4 - 191,000 miles - Amsoil Signature Series 5w-20, BMK 23-EA Dual Bypass Filter
Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445217
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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At first I was like oh.

But then I realized what you're doing and now it's like OH.

Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445268
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Bypass filters are awesome for long drains. You're still more brave than I would be! smile I feel brave enough running to the OLM (7-9k) on the Hondas I maintain...


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Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445271
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You're definitely getting your $12 worth!

Any idea on the thickening? Just expected with the oil as it ages?


2008 Dodge Caliber SE 2.0 117k
4qt Imeditsu 0w-20, 1/2qt Mobil SS 5w-20 Fram HM

2003 Buick Century 107k
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Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445290
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I guess the bypass filter is removing iron, since its not increasing. I thought iron particles would be mostly under 2 microns and make it through any filter.
Also, a magnetic drain plug might help too.
Enough make-up oil is being added to keep additives going, as TBN is hanging in there.
Viscosity is only up about 10%, not much.

Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445298
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Good experiment. But I'd change at 60K for sure. I'd think I had my money's worth at 20K. You are a braver man than I am laugh

But, with the by-pass filters, the reports are looking good. So you are onto something smile

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Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445312
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What is the total oil added


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Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445324
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those miles are on very very quickly.. 1,500 mi. per week.


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Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445341
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lot of at full temp miles running good, love to know an avg. speed, as I suspect your also at severe duty.


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640:1 TCW-3 E091
Edge 0/40 XG7317
Firehawk Indy 500

06 4Runner SR5 141k
640:1 TCW-3
PP 5/30 XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445342
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Nice....


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Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445426
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Thanks for the post.

Are you towing with the rig or just driving?

3.87 base number is moderately low? Seems like plenty of alkalinity left especially since you were lower than that on two other samples.

When you indicate you changed filters - is that the full flow filter, or the bypass filter?

UD


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Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445481
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Thanks for all the great posts guys.
The latest 6k uoa took a little more out of the add pack than the previous 6k run. I made a 15 day 5700 mile run from Chicago to Vancouver by way of Reno and back thru Calgary. Hours of cruise control running 75-80mph. I don't tow anything, but W bound I-80 is usually met by a pretty stiff 20-35 mph headwind. This uoa was my 1st change on my 60k mile Bypass filter. I changed my full flow filter at 25k, and 50k. This bypass filter set up has been kind of a dance in keeping the TBN up in between filter changes and makeup oil. My next filter change will be at 75k miles. I'll post an update then.


2011 King Ranch Ford Expedition EL 4x4 - 191,000 miles - Amsoil Signature Series 5w-20, BMK 23-EA Dual Bypass Filter
Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445515
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Originally Posted By: Crusher
This uoa was my 1st change on my 60k mile Bypass filter. I changed my full flow filter at 25k, and 50k. This bypass filter set up has been kind of a dance in keeping the TBN up in between filter changes and makeup oil. My next filter change will be at 75k miles. I'll post an update then.


This is very, very interesting stuff!

Again, how many total make up quarts so far?


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Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445541
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As far as makeup oil goes I would guess
4 quarts from the 3 filter changes, and
5-6 quarts of top offs, for a total of
9-10 quarts


2011 King Ranch Ford Expedition EL 4x4 - 191,000 miles - Amsoil Signature Series 5w-20, BMK 23-EA Dual Bypass Filter
Re: Amsoil SS 5w-20, 62,000 miles, '11 Ford Expedition [Re: Crusher] #4445553
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Originally Posted By: Crusher
...a 15 day 5700 mile run from Chicago to Vancouver by way of Reno and back thru Calgary...


What do you do for a living? I'm sure many people from Chicago (a wonderful place, I hear) get to Vancouver and want to stay. Was going back through Calgary some kind of a penalty? It's a lovely drive and Calgary's great, but if you're Chicago-bound, I90 east from Seattle just makes more sense.

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