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New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart #4358662
03/20/17 04:49 PM
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BigBuck Offline OP
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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4358676
03/20/17 05:00 PM
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Whether it's the same stuff inside the bottle as Lucas, who knows..

.. but the bottle certainly looks very close. I wonder if they just decided to buy different bottles due to lower cost, or just to target people who like the Lucas bottle.


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4358688
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BigBuck Offline OP
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Different color oil inside. But similar viscosity and states the same benefits as the Lucas. I didn't use it as I have other preferred additives when I decide to use them, so unfortunately I can't talk about if it does anything.


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4358689
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color looks different...


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4358880
03/20/17 08:18 PM
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Very interesting... FWIW, when I used to mess around with additives, lucas was one of the only ones that appealed to my "butt dyno", fwiw...

Not saying it did anything, certainly no idea about cleaning... But it did create a feel somehow that differed. In two different 4 cyl vehicles.

But this could be the same or vastly different. If WPP gives an MSDS that shows a dose of PEA, who knows, it could be a good alternative for the tcw3 crowd...

Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: JHZR2] #4359595
03/21/17 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Very interesting... FWIW, when I used to mess around with additives, lucas was one of the only ones that appealed to my "butt dyno", fwiw...

Not saying it did anything, certainly no idea about cleaning... But it did create a feel somehow that differed. In two different 4 cyl vehicles.

But this could be the same or vastly different. If WPP gives an MSDS that shows a dose of PEA, who knows, it could be a good alternative for the tcw3 crowd...


This is why I would LOVE to have the money to conduct test cell analysis for wear, deposits, cleaning and NVH of different oils and additives. banana


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4360066
03/22/17 08:13 AM
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Probably the same [censored] that is in the Lucas bottle...


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: Boss302fan] #4360069
03/22/17 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: Boss302fan
Probably the same [censored] that is in the Lucas bottle...


I recently saw this at my local wallyworld. I can't say for sure it is or that it is not, but I will say that the SuperTech brand is a different color and viscosity than the Lucas. The Lucas seemed to be a bit thicker. The treat rate is stated as the same. I bought it and will use it in place of my normal TCW-3...but just because I wanted the bottle ;-)


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4361221
03/23/17 11:49 AM
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They have a whole new line of ST products that copy others now. There is this UCL, they have a ST Lucas oil stabilizer, ST seafoam, etc.

Idk if the formulations are the same, but I know that the packaging is lol


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4361222
03/23/17 11:51 AM
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All the packaging has the same information as the original BTW. Straight copied lol


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4361249
03/23/17 12:07 PM
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Bought a bottle yesterday. I don't know what to expect from it, but we'll see


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4361369
03/23/17 01:57 PM
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Skip them both and get something with PEA.


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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4362112
03/24/17 10:23 AM
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Middle of Iowa
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Just for fun from the SDS for each chemical...

Lucas:
Petroleum Distillates, Hydrotreated heavy Paraffinic - 60%-100%

Super Tech:
Petroleum Distillates, Hydrotreated heavy Paraffinic - 80%-100%
Solvent Naphtha (petroleum), light aromatic - <3%
Cumene - <1%

Cumene is a solvent, and also component in high octane fuels from what I have found...

Armor All / STP products is the responsible party for SuperTech

Thoughts?

Last edited by DriveHard; 03/24/17 10:25 AM.

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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: BigBuck] #4397874
05/06/17 03:51 PM
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Quote:
Armor All / STP products is the responsible party

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Re: New supertech brand Lucas in my local Walmart [Re: Bgallagher] #4632487
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Originally Posted By: Bgallagher
Skip them both and get something with PEA.


I just bought a bottle of this and the label lists PEA as an ingredient. You can smell that unmistakable nasty fishyness so it must have a decent % of it as well.



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