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#1017431 - 10/30/07 06:03 PM Re: Enzo (2) Compare Shell 10W60, GC 0W30 at 1,400 [Re: Geoff]
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Registered: 01/09/05
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My pressures run around 45 - 50 PSI at 2,000 RPM when fully warmed up to 180 F sump temperature. The pressure at pop off is around 90 - 95 PSI at operating temperature. Interestingly the pop off pressure is around 120 - 130 PSI at start up when the ambient temperature is 75 F. The relief valve must be further downstream of the oil filter while the pressure is taken at the filter.

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#3287226 - 02/19/14 12:54 PM Re: Enzo (2) Compare Shell 10W60, GC 0W30 at 1,400 [Re: AEHaas]
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Registered: 02/19/14
Posts: 6
Loc: UK
Interested on your views on Shell Helix 10w60 oil for track day use (and general road use) in a British TVR sports car. Performance is 0-60mph in about 4.3 seconds, quarter mile in about 12-13 seconds, top speed 160 mph
Climate - operating in temperatures from 32F to about 85F, mainly 45F to 70F.

Engine is 5 litres, V8, a longer stroke version of the Range Rover engine, which in turn was developed from a 1950s Buick, so not exactly Ferrari Enzo high tech. The TVR forums in the UK worry about having enough zinc in their oil, but otherwise opinions vary on what is the best oil to run.

My engine was actually built last year, 10,000 miles ago, but the average age of these V8 engines is about 18 years old. Most owners use a 20w50 oil, something like Valvoline VR1, or Castrol 5 or 10w40.

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#3291964 - 02/23/14 04:40 PM Re: Enzo (2) Compare Shell 10W60, GC 0W30 at 1,400 [Re: AEHaas]
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Registered: 02/15/03
Posts: 5859
Loc: Jupiter, Florida
I've got a good bit of seat time in the "Enzo". My general impression is one of, believe it or not, that it's slightly down on power and/or throttle response. It's fast, for sure. But, it's not faster than a mildly tweaked Nissan GTR at reasonable speeds, such as street encounters and drag strip use. And, it's Way down on power when directly compared to a McLaren F1.

We did some comparisons between the Enzo and the F1. I tried every trick in the book and it mattered not. The Enzo fell about 700 feet back within seconds on each "roll on" race. Some of that could be traction control and throttle by wire issues. But the two cars have similar HP and similar weights. Yet, could not be more different. The F1 really has that "rip snorting" power you expect from a supercar.

The Enzo is a technical "tour de force" and the F1 is basic, with no traction control, no throttle by wire and no ABS (if I remember correctly) All of this makes the F1 quite a blast to drive. The F1 is actually faster initially, than the Veyron.


Edited by Cujet (02/23/14 04:47 PM)
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#3292034 - 02/23/14 06:15 PM Re: Enzo (2) Compare Shell 10W60, GC 0W30 at 1,400 [Re: Cujet]
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Registered: 10/20/05
Posts: 10374
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: Cujet
I've got a good bit of seat time in the "Enzo". My general impression is one of, believe it or not, that it's slightly down on power and/or throttle response. It's fast, for sure. But, it's not faster than a mildly tweaked Nissan GTR at reasonable speeds, such as street encounters and drag strip use. And, it's Way down on power when directly compared to a McLaren F1.

We did some comparisons between the Enzo and the F1. I tried every trick in the book and it mattered not. The Enzo fell about 700 feet back within seconds on each "roll on" race. Some of that could be traction control and throttle by wire issues. But the two cars have similar HP and similar weights. Yet, could not be more different. The F1 really has that "rip snorting" power you expect from a supercar.

Well, yeah. Doesn't the Enzo have a great deal more downforce? Wouldn't be shocked if it had a heck of a lot more aerodynamic drag, too.


Originally Posted By: Cujet
The F1 is actually faster initially, than the Veyron.

...Wait, what?
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#3292072 - 02/23/14 06:50 PM Re: Enzo (2) Compare Shell 10W60, GC 0W30 at 1,400 [Re: d00df00d]
901Memphis Offline


Registered: 08/14/10
Posts: 11740
Loc: Northern Kentucky
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: Cujet
I've got a good bit of seat time in the "Enzo". My general impression is one of, believe it or not, that it's slightly down on power and/or throttle response. It's fast, for sure. But, it's not faster than a mildly tweaked Nissan GTR at reasonable speeds, such as street encounters and drag strip use. And, it's Way down on power when directly compared to a McLaren F1.

We did some comparisons between the Enzo and the F1. I tried every trick in the book and it mattered not. The Enzo fell about 700 feet back within seconds on each "roll on" race. Some of that could be traction control and throttle by wire issues. But the two cars have similar HP and similar weights. Yet, could not be more different. The F1 really has that "rip snorting" power you expect from a supercar.

Well, yeah. Doesn't the Enzo have a great deal more downforce? Wouldn't be shocked if it had a heck of a lot more aerodynamic drag, too.


Originally Posted By: Cujet
The F1 is actually faster initially, than the Veyron.

...Wait, what?


You never saw that race?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXqSedWSu2k
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#3292194 - 02/23/14 09:06 PM Re: Enzo (2) Compare Shell 10W60, GC 0W30 at 1,400 [Re: 901Memphis]
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Registered: 10/20/05
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Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: 901Memphis

Top Gear Magazine said they kept the Veyron's launch control disabled to make the race closer. Top Gear is a great show, but in the end it's about entertainment, not information.

I have no special love for the Veyron and completely agree that the F1 is the more desirable car. Just trying to keep it real. Look up objectively tested acceleration numbers for both cars and compare. The Veyron is very clearly quicker everywhere, including off the line (0-60 in well under 3 seconds, vs. just over 3 seconds for the F1).
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#3292280 - 02/23/14 10:19 PM Re: Enzo (2) Compare Shell 10W60, GC 0W30 at 1,400 [Re: AEHaas]
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Registered: 02/15/03
Posts: 5859
Loc: Jupiter, Florida
I've seen both at PBIR. The Veyron launched mildly. Probably due to configuration and not the car's outright ability. But I have no way to know that. The F1 has no such restrictions.
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