Wow- an employment questioner that a BITOGer would ace

[GON]

I applied for a position and was sent a questionnaire. I am blown away by the first two questions. Seems like one of the BITOG admins wrote the questioner? Of note, this position has zero to do with oil, lubes, etc.

Aptitude and ability for learning trade theory and practice.

3) Knowledge of Fundamentals of Electricity
Familiarity with Preventive maintenance techniques:
1) Knowledge of routine maintenance required, such as oil changes, cleaning, and
general instructions
2) Knowledge of Lubricants and proper use of each

4) Knowledge of using Hand Tools
5) Knowledge of Drill Presses, Grinders, and other Point of Operation Tools
6) Knowledge of Generators, Motors, and Electrical Controls
7) Knowledge of Metrics system measurements
8) Knowledge of Circuit Breakers, Fuses, and Other Protective Devices
9) Knowledge of Meter and Instrument Reading
10) Knowledge of Basic Electrical Safety

No
Experience
Fundamental
Awareness
(Basic
Knowledge)
Novice
(Limited
Experience)

Intermediate
(Practical
Application)

Advanced
(Applied
Theory)
Expert
(Recognized
Authority)

Element 2

Ability to follow directions in a shop
1) Knowledge of care and use of power tools, (ie Drills, Saws, etc)
2) Knowledge of care and use of special and standard tools for dismantling and
reassembly of equipment and machinery.

6) Ability to use Microsoft Office Applications
3) Ability to do Practical Arithmetic
4) Ability to apply elements of Algebra & Formulas
5) Ability to apply Practical Geometry and Trigonometry Computer Architecture

Element 3

Ability to use, maintain, update Maintenance / Records Management
Systems.
1) Knowledge of purpose of records.
2) Knowledge of Basic accounting for proper distribution of materials.
3) Knowledge of Work orders.
4) Knowledge of Lock Out Tag Out / Switching documents.
5) Knowledge of Time & Attendance records.
6) Knowledge of Periodic maintenance records.
7) Knowledge of Ordering of parts.

Ability to work safely as a member of a team.
1) Ability to work within a Hazardous Energy Control Program or equivalent Lock out Program
3) Proper use and care of personal safety equipment.
5) Safety training such as: asbestos awareness, defensive driving, etc.
6) Basic knowledge of personal protective equipment (safety boots, glasses, hard hats, etc)
2) Knowledge of Safety Standards and Practices
4) Training in first aid and emergency medical response procedures.

Element 5 No
Experience
Fundamental
Awareness
(Basic
Knowledge)
Novice
(Limited
Experience)

Intermediate
(Practical
Application)

Advanced
(Applied
Theory)
Expert
(Recognized
Authority)

Aptitude and ability to learn operation and maintenance of powerplant
equipment
1) Basic knowledge of equipment that may be located in a powerplant such as generators,
motors, transformers, breakers, etc.
2) Basic knowledge of electrical testing equipment such as multi meters, volt meters, amp
meters, etc
3) Basic knowledge of equipment located at a powerplant such as aerial lifts and hoisting
equipment
4) Basic knowledge of National Electrical Code (NEC) requirements

 

[bullwinkle]

That sounds like a $150K/year job! Unless they can get a long term employee from another company, that's a Hail Mary!

 

[eljefino]

Those questions are "do you want the job" questions. Do you want the job?

Is this a government job, perchance?

 

[Cujet]

That sounds like a $150K/year job! Unless they can get a long term employee from another company, that's a Hail Mary!

Maybe even more money than that. I don't know how many of you try to hire qualified employees. The pickings for capable people is nearly zero. Sure, there are plenty of relatively smart people, most are already properly employed or retired.

Some time back, I posted a Help Wanted ad for such a qualified person, and was instructed to list the salary at a stupidly low number. The responses were amazingly epic. I'll have to go through my old emails to see if I still have them.

 

[GON]

Those questions are "do you want the job" questions. Do you want the job?

Is this a government job, perchance?

The job is for an electrician at a power plant.

Do I want the job? Not sure I want a significant change in career fields at age 60. But I have not had much success after applying for nearly 400 positions in the last few months, so I am not discounting any potential opportunities.

 

[Pablo]

Lawn chair and shade? IN!!!

 

[Thermo1223]

Sounds like a job for me! I am a bit rusty on code for industrial applications but knowing that 12 gauge wire can't support 100 amps I think that would be enough.

I actually got half way through the process of applying at the local nuclear power plant and taking an ASVAB style test but then had other things come up. I still wonder if I would have got the job.

 

[Aredeeem]

Where I worked your pension formula was based on your best 3 years out of your last 10. Guys would routinely ring the bell (make 100k) or more by knocking themselves out with overtime in order to pad their pensions. And I’m talking about bus drivers, not rocket scientists. With a pension that some of my former colleagues make you could afford a private electrician on call 24/7.

 

[Highlander 1459]

The job is for an electrician at a power plant.

Do I want the job? Not sure I want a significant change in career fields at age 60. But I have not had much success after applying for nearly 400 positions in the last few months, so I am not discounting any potential opportunities.

they dont want you once you get old....

 

[CKN]

A potential employer knows Gon will have a pension, from his resume. They will also know about what age he is. A private employer will pay a preminum for their portion of his Healthcare, if he enrolls. They will figure ( rightly or wrongly) he will work until full retirement ( Social Security) age. Not a whole lot of positives from an employers point of view solely looking at a resume. I have done some hiring in my past.

 

[spackard]

3) Knowledge of Fundamentals of Electricity
Familiarity with Preventive maintenance techniques:
1) Knowledge of routine maintenance required, such as oil changes, cleaning, and
general instructions
2) Knowledge of Lubricants and proper use of each

4) Knowledge of using Hand Tools
5) Knowledge of Drill Presses, Grinders, and other Point of Operation Tools
6) Knowledge of Generators, Motors, and Electrical Controls
7) Knowledge of Metrics system measurements
8) Knowledge of Circuit Breakers, Fuses, and Other Protective Devices
9) Knowledge of Meter and Instrument Reading
10) Knowledge of Basic Electrical Safety

Safety 10th,
from what I read.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Safety 10th,
from what I read.

Only you can ensure that you’re going home safely at the end of the day. Relying on somebody else to keep you safe is a good way to increase your risks of being injured at whatever task you’re doing.

 

[vavavroom]

The job is for an electrician at a power plant.

Do I want the job? Not sure I want a significant change in career fields at age 60. But I have not had much success after applying for nearly 400 positions in the last few months, so I am not discounting any potential opportunities.

You could be a YouTube food critic.

 

[Pablo]

You could be a YouTube food critic.

Secret house shopper

 

[Dave Hess]

Maybe even more money than that. I don't know how many of you try to hire qualified employees. The pickings for capable people is nearly zero. Sure, there are plenty of relatively smart people, most are already properly employed or retired.

Some time back, I posted a Help Wanted ad for such a qualified person, and was instructed to list the salary at a stupidly low number. The responses were amazingly epic. I'll have to go through my old emails to see if I still have them.

How low number ?

 

[Jdeere562]

@GON Just retire and call it a day. You have proved all you need to in this life.
I only wish that I had shut down a few years sooner, while my body could still enjoy life.

Now I have $ and no where to spend it. Sad situation.

 

[nomas]

Electrician at a Nuke ? That's BIG bucks . Especially when they do a refuel outage . Money is no object . Your overtime will be limited by TechSpec or whatever acronym they use but it's A LOT . And the work is not hard . EVERYTHING is procedure driven so if you meet the requirements listed you will be incredibly overqualified for the actual job .
I was a Relay Tech for a power company and worked in the switchyard at one of our Nukes and did some work in the Protected Area a few times . I interacted with plant personnel at times and saw how it works . It's a different world .

 

[CKN]

Electrician at a Nuke ? That's BIG bucks . Especially when they do a refuel outage . Money is no object . Your overtime will be limited by TechSpec or whatever acronym they use but it's A LOT . And the work is not hard . EVERYTHING is procedure driven so if you meet the requirements listed you will be incredibly overqualified for the actual job .
I was a Relay Tech for a power company and worked in the switchyard at one of our Nukes and did some work in the Protected Area a few times . I interacted with plant personnel at times and saw how it works . It's a different world .

They are not going to train a 60 year old for that position. File that under "it ain't gonna happen".

 

[RhondaHonda]

@GON is your current job going away or are you just looking for something different? Changing career fields is hard but doing it at 60 is going to be real hard for the reasons @CKN mentioned. Can you tough out 5-10 more years doing whatever it is you do?

If you can afford to hang it up, I’d do that. I don’t know anyone that says they wished they’d worked longer. Applying to 400 jobs in months tells me that they don’t want to hire someone that’s close to retirement.

 

[GON]

@GON is your current job going away or are you just looking for something different? Changing career fields is hard but doing it at 60 is going to be real hard for the reasons @CKN mentioned. Can you tough out 5-10 more years doing whatever it is you do?

If you can afford to hang it up, I’d do that. I don’t know anyone that says they wished they’d worked longer. Applying to 400 jobs in months tells me that they don’t want to hire someone that’s close to retirement.

My job has a mandatory retirement at age 60.

My plan is to work until I die/ can't. We are all different. It is not a match for me to sit home all day, even if there are "tasks" to do, and errands to run. At age 17, I lived alone at essentially what was a retirement community in South Florida. The retired folks were awesome, but I was able to observe consciously and subconsciously their daily routines.

Every single retired folk watched Regis and Kathy Lee every morning, shopped every Thursday because that is when the fresh products (early 1980s) arrived and were shelfed at the grocery story. They went to the gas station regularly for one gallon of gas to fill their tank, as they had really nothing else to do. I was the guy working at the gas station getting asked why the tank didn't "take more gas". These folks would go to the Savings and Loan every week to get an update of the interest in their savings passbook (remember those).

We are all different, I think- quite possibly erroneously that I will fall ill if I don't work hard. Not a fear, but just like a reliable car, let it sit and things start to break. When working in Asia, I see very mature people working hard for no pay every morning. Sweeping the sidewalks, etc. Also worth noting, I enjoy working, I find it satisfying. In high school, my junior and senior years I worked both a full-time job and a part time job. At the end of the day, I guess I am a worker....

The housing market hasn't helped us. Homes that match for us have double or more since 2019. That is reality. We took two very significant losses on homes we purchased just prior to the 2008 crash. We vowed not to buy another hone until we retired. That was a costly cost of action- we didn't see the devaluation of the USD as a trouble spot, and our savings at 1% didn't keep up with the rise in housing cost, not even close.

The electrician job (I posted the job in another thread) is an apprenticeship. Pays exceptionally well, requires studying at home 10 +/- hours per night. The electrician position would be a challenge for me, keeping me tested, being a good example for my adult children and grandchildren to be a lifelong learner and productive member of the community....but I am also well aware to be careful what one asks for.........