Would you buy a new BMW F850 for nearly 16 large knowing that the engine is from China ?

[BusyLittleShop]

No can do Parallel Twins any more no matter who makes it... all my cylinders must fire in the superior V4 way!!!

 

[Finklejag]

I read any 999cc or less BMW engine is not made in Berlin anymore. Loncin makes most of the engines for BMW, and TVS India makes the whole G310 R and GS models.

 

[two-up]

No can do Parallel Twins any more no matter who makes it... all my cylinders must fire in the superior V4 way!!!

sounds like piston envy to me

 

[two-up]

So you are absolutely sure nothing of quality in made in China. Sir, you can order any level of quality from China, the price goes up as the quality goes up.

Are you referring to consumer goods or 'laboratory products'/weather balloons or hypersonic missiles? -try and find a Bible not printed in China, how ironic is that!

 

[two-up]

I read any 999cc or less BMW engine is not made in Berlin anymore. Loncin makes most of the engines for BMW, and TVS India makes the whole G310 R and GS models.

cannot help but to wonder just how much BMW pays for the fuel tanks they sell for nearly $2,000.00 usd-$200.00 ??

 

[jeff78]

Their adventure bikes ie: GS models are very popular so I cannot imagine how those riders are feeling over this. I don't know if the decsion was across the board for all of their lineup or only on specific models,

For their entire lineup, starting with the '21 MY I believe. And the DVD's for previous models that they used to sell, they've stopped selling.

 

[andrewg]

Are you referring to consumer goods or 'laboratory products'/weather balloons or hypersonic missiles? -try and find a Bible not printed in China, how ironic is that!

My bible is printed in the USA.

 

[Blueshound]

I wouldn't buy any new BMW motorcycle because they now no longer sell service manuals to the public. Service manuals are only available to dealers.

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[two-up]

My bible is printed in the USA.

As is mine, but the best I was able to do this past Christmas was finding some from South Korea.

200 Million Bibles Printed in China - UBS China Partnership | Bibles in China

11 Nov 2019 is a day the world’s largest Bible printing press, Amity Printing Company (APC), makes history once again. Today, APC celebrates the printing of 200 million Bibles and counting!

www.ubscp.org

 

[two-up]

I read any 999cc or less BMW engine is not made in Berlin anymore. Loncin makes most of the engines for BMW, and TVS India makes the whole G310 R and GS models.

The 850/750 and 310 GS models are made in India using engines from China ?

 

[alarmguy]

Wow, no, I don’t think a an engine from China would do it for me

 

[Finklejag]

The 850/750 and 310 GS models are made in India using engines from China ?

Loncin of China makes the BMW engines below 999cc. The GS310 is made in India, including the engine by TVS.

Every BMW motorcycle excluding the G310 in assembled in Berlin, even the scooters.

 

[two-up]

BMW Motorrad USA Ends 2022 On A Sales High Note

BMW Motorrad USA reports a sales increase of 7.2 percent in Q4 2022 and posts a 10.4-percent increase over total 2021 sales thanks to replenished supplies.

www.rideapart.com

and I feel sorry for each and every buyer.....

 

[cheesepuffs2]

You got my curiosity. I thought BMW motorcycles are all "Shaft-Driven." F850 is not a real BMW moto IMHO.

Edit: I have to add one more thing. If you happen to purchase one, don't attend a BMW biker's event because they're going to make fun out of your bike.

Is the S1000RR also not a "real BMW moto" then?

 

[cheesepuffs2]

I was referring to the smaller "street" bikes aimed at the urban hip crowd.

Those have already been out of production for multiple years. That lineup totally flopped and was really only intended to serve as a new slew of bikes for HD's riding courses, because their previous fleet was all Buell Blasts that were getting very long in the tooth.

 

[Hermann]

Just getting a heck of a laugh from all the folks that are BMW Motorrad ignorant, who criticize with falsehoods .

 

[two-up]

Out of curiosity where do you buy your parts from

 

[two-up]

There are some very good reasons to take this once great marque to task

Service or Repair manuals are now unavailable

www.r1200gs.info

 

[cheesepuffs2]

There are some very good reasons to take this once great marque to task

Service or Repair manuals are now unavailable

www.r1200gs.info

Yup, just like how you need to pay the dealer ~$500 for your first service with an S1000RR for them to unlock the full-power ECU tune for you. When you get one brand new, it comes with a low HP tune for "break-in purposes".

 

[Merek]

I was at a BMW dealership last weekend and one of the guys was saying that their Scooter is the one that costs the most when they service them. I think he meant their 400 model because we got to talking about my dad's Burgman 650 and how good it was and he didn't say anything about being electric and they only have those two models.

The dealership I visited also sells Triumph, Indian, and Ducati.