Why the hate for Royal Purple?
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Here's from a voa of XPR 5W30 I found online:
Calcium = 3039
Phosphorus = 1338
Zinc = 1421
Moly = 204
TBN = 10.9
This looks like a serious oil!!
Calcium = 3039
Phosphorus = 1338
Zinc = 1421
Moly = 204
TBN = 10.9
This looks like a serious oil!!
Originally Posted By: bbhero
Key difference is that is the regular Royal Purple API SN approved oil. This version of Royal Purple is not the same as the RP HPS version. No where near the same as the regular RP sold at Wally World.
Yep, it's the same old story.
When RP didn't upgrade to SM, people complained it wasn't certified. When it upgraded to SN, it suddenly became watered down.
In fairness, for those willing to spend the money (or not, since it's not ridiculously more money than other synthetics up here), they do offer a few options. For those looking for a HM oil that hasn't been turned into another SN/GF-5 option, RP is at least another choice.
If I wanted a simple 5w-30 SN/GF-5 dexos1, RP wouldn't be my first choice. But, when RP 0w-40 was cheaper than GC or M1 0w-40 for the old Audi, that didn't seem so bad, at least until I got Delvac 1.
Key difference is that is the regular Royal Purple API SN approved oil. This version of Royal Purple is not the same as the RP HPS version. No where near the same as the regular RP sold at Wally World.
Yep, it's the same old story.
In fairness, for those willing to spend the money (or not, since it's not ridiculously more money than other synthetics up here), they do offer a few options. For those looking for a HM oil that hasn't been turned into another SN/GF-5 option, RP is at least another choice.
If I wanted a simple 5w-30 SN/GF-5 dexos1, RP wouldn't be my first choice. But, when RP 0w-40 was cheaper than GC or M1 0w-40 for the old Audi, that didn't seem so bad, at least until I got Delvac 1.
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Here's from a voa of XPR 5W30 I found online:
Calcium = 3039
Phosphorus = 1338
Zinc = 1421
Moly = 204
TBN = 10.9
This looks like a serious oil!!
Yeah, the Royal Purple HPS 5w-30 that I run looks like this:
Calcium = 3158
Phos = 1096
Zinc = 1269
Moly = 119
TBN = 10.5
These are NOT the API Royal Purple everyone is saying looks like Valvoline.
Here's from a voa of XPR 5W30 I found online:
Calcium = 3039
Phosphorus = 1338
Zinc = 1421
Moly = 204
TBN = 10.9
This looks like a serious oil!!
Yeah, the Royal Purple HPS 5w-30 that I run looks like this:
Calcium = 3158
Phos = 1096
Zinc = 1269
Moly = 119
TBN = 10.5
These are NOT the API Royal Purple everyone is saying looks like Valvoline.
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Originally Posted By: Fasttimez
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Here's from a voa of XPR 5W30 I found online:
Calcium = 3039
Phosphorus = 1338
Zinc = 1421
Moly = 204
TBN = 10.9
This looks like a serious oil!!
Yeah, the Royal Purple HPS 5w-30 that I run looks like this:
Calcium = 3158
Phos = 1096
Zinc = 1269
Moly = 119
TBN = 10.5
These are NOT the API Royal Purple everyone is saying looks like Valvoline.
Nice!
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Here's from a voa of XPR 5W30 I found online:
Calcium = 3039
Phosphorus = 1338
Zinc = 1421
Moly = 204
TBN = 10.9
This looks like a serious oil!!
Yeah, the Royal Purple HPS 5w-30 that I run looks like this:
Calcium = 3158
Phos = 1096
Zinc = 1269
Moly = 119
TBN = 10.5
These are NOT the API Royal Purple everyone is saying looks like Valvoline.
Nice!
Originally Posted By: 03s
For a Valvoline 0w-20/Royal Purple 5w-20 comparison at PQIA both 2017.
http://www.pqiadata.org/Valvoline_SYNPower_0W20_dexos.html
http://pqiadata.org/Royal_Purple_5W20.html
I'm guessing you missed it when I said Royal Purple HPS & HMX lines, NOT their API oil.
For a Valvoline 0w-20/Royal Purple 5w-20 comparison at PQIA both 2017.
http://www.pqiadata.org/Valvoline_SYNPower_0W20_dexos.html
http://pqiadata.org/Royal_Purple_5W20.html
I'm guessing you missed it when I said Royal Purple HPS & HMX lines, NOT their API oil.
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
...In comparison to other specialty oil brands like Amsoil and Redline, it's easier to get (for example, you can find regular Royal Purple on the shelf at O'Reilly auto parts and order special versions like HPS, HMX, etc for the next day) and it's price competitive or cheaper.
Regarding prices, I have compared prices of Royal Purple to Amsoil and Redline at quite a few Auto Stores and I have not seen prices that I would call, "Price Competitive."
Originally Posted By: dogememe
PS: It's purple, how awesome is that?
With the right mix of oil soluble dyes, I can produce any color of oil you want, even Chartreuse Pear. Color can be used to simply differentiate an oil.
Color adds NOTHING to the lubrication performance of any oil, so one should not be impressed by color.
...In comparison to other specialty oil brands like Amsoil and Redline, it's easier to get (for example, you can find regular Royal Purple on the shelf at O'Reilly auto parts and order special versions like HPS, HMX, etc for the next day) and it's price competitive or cheaper.
Regarding prices, I have compared prices of Royal Purple to Amsoil and Redline at quite a few Auto Stores and I have not seen prices that I would call, "Price Competitive."
Originally Posted By: dogememe
PS: It's purple, how awesome is that?
With the right mix of oil soluble dyes, I can produce any color of oil you want, even Chartreuse Pear. Color can be used to simply differentiate an oil.
Color adds NOTHING to the lubrication performance of any oil, so one should not be impressed by color.
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MolaKule
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Originally Posted By: beanoil
I don't think it's "hate" per se, but there is no ROI for the expense with RP. In other words, there are many other oils that provide the same or better results with much less investment.
P.S.
Schaeffer Oil is GREEN, how awesome is that?
Pennzoil (Havoline, Mobil, P66, Valvoline) is GOLD how awesome is that?
I don't think it's "hate" per se, but there is no ROI for the expense with RP. In other words, there are many other oils that provide the same or better results with much less investment.
P.S.
Schaeffer Oil is GREEN, how awesome is that?
Pennzoil (Havoline, Mobil, P66, Valvoline) is GOLD how awesome is that?
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
With the right mix of oil soluble dyes, I can produce any color of oil you want, even Chartreuse Pear. Color can be used to simply differentiate an oil.
Color adds NOTHING to the lubrication performance of any oil, so one should not be impressed by color.
Would it be possible for you to whip up a sample? My wife wants to see if it matches her shoes and purse.
With the right mix of oil soluble dyes, I can produce any color of oil you want, even Chartreuse Pear. Color can be used to simply differentiate an oil.
Color adds NOTHING to the lubrication performance of any oil, so one should not be impressed by color.
Would it be possible for you to whip up a sample? My wife wants to see if it matches her shoes and purse.
MolaKule
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
With the right mix of oil soluble dyes, I can produce any color of oil you want, even Chartreuse Pear. Color can be used to simply differentiate an oil.
Color adds NOTHING to the lubrication performance of any oil, so one should not be impressed by color.
Would it be possible for you to whip up a sample? My wife wants to see if it matches her shoes and purse.
Absolutely.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
With the right mix of oil soluble dyes, I can produce any color of oil you want, even Chartreuse Pear. Color can be used to simply differentiate an oil.
Color adds NOTHING to the lubrication performance of any oil, so one should not be impressed by color.
Would it be possible for you to whip up a sample? My wife wants to see if it matches her shoes and purse.
Absolutely.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Absolutely.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
It smelled like money?
;^)
Absolutely.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
It smelled like money?
;^)
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Absolutely.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
It smelled like money?
;^)
And I suppose you are here all day?
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Absolutely.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
It smelled like money?
;^)
And I suppose you are here all day?
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
It smelled like money?
;^)
I'm going to guess esters.
I like esters too
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
It smelled like money?
;^)
I'm going to guess esters.
I like esters too
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
Wow. I thought this was a joke. And it is real.
So, I am assuming it smells like, 3 year old tobacco smoke, 3 day old stale cheap beer and pink champagne, 2 day old sweat and [censored], and recycled dollar bills?
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
Wow. I thought this was a joke. And it is real.
So, I am assuming it smells like, 3 year old tobacco smoke, 3 day old stale cheap beer and pink champagne, 2 day old sweat and [censored], and recycled dollar bills?
Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Absolutely.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
It smelled like money?
;^)
And I suppose you are here all day?
Try the chicken cacciatore, folks...and, don't forget to tip your servers generously, they work hard for you.
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Absolutely.
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
It smelled like money?
;^)
And I suppose you are here all day?
Try the chicken cacciatore, folks...and, don't forget to tip your servers generously, they work hard for you.
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Originally Posted By: bigj_16
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
Wow. I thought this was a joke. And it is real.
So, I am assuming it smells like, 3 year old tobacco smoke, 3 day old stale cheap beer and pink champagne, 2 day old sweat and [censored], and recycled dollar bills?
Or smelled like an unwashed dog haha.
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
I had produced an oil at one time that had an aroma that was very attractive for women DIYers.
Wow. I thought this was a joke. And it is real.
So, I am assuming it smells like, 3 year old tobacco smoke, 3 day old stale cheap beer and pink champagne, 2 day old sweat and [censored], and recycled dollar bills?
Or smelled like an unwashed dog haha.
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Regarding prices, I have compared prices of Royal Purple to Amsoil and Redline at quite a few Auto Stores and I have not seen prices that I would call, "Price Competitive."
You guys down south are spoiled.
Here, regular RP price is between M1 and M1 EP, though it never gets cut as sharply as M1 or M1 EP do when a special is on. The big box stores clearly have much better margins on M1 and the like than they do on RP. My supplier was getting me quarts of RP 0w-40 for something like $8 when GC and M1 0w-40 were a couple bucks more per litre (before M1 came out in jugs here, and before Castrol 0w-40 came here, and before I found out how cheap Delvac 1 was).
Regarding prices, I have compared prices of Royal Purple to Amsoil and Redline at quite a few Auto Stores and I have not seen prices that I would call, "Price Competitive."
You guys down south are spoiled.
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I'd have to pay $36/gallon for that Delvac 1 ...
Yikes, here, it was under $25 a gallon then. The RP was obviously significantly more.
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