Originally Posted By: Canadastang
That spindle looks very familiar...
89-97 T-Bird/Cougar?
Yes, MN12 Super Coupe rear end.
That spindle looks very familiar...
89-97 T-Bird/Cougar?
Yes, MN12 Super Coupe rear end.
Why it's a bad idea to ignore wheel-bearing noises
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Love your story but let me just point out a myth- two cars (or a car and a truck wheel) doing 60mph in opposite directions don't make a 120mph collision. Each side has the same kind of crash (at worst, assuming each instantly stops in the crash, no glancing off) as hitting a brick wall at 60mph. To understand this, see how either party in the crash effectively decelerates from 60 to 0 in nearly no time, just like when hitting the brick wall. What is doubled is the total energy in the crash - because there are two parties having the crash.
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
I watched one come apart right in front of me, a few decades ago. Old, rusty truck. We were heading into an underwater tunnel too. I saw something odd, then saw sparks, so I slowed way down. The back left wheel really began to wobble, then suddenly separated! It passed the truck body straight into head-on traffic....inside the tunnel!
One guy in a Camero did Chevy proud the way he quickly swerved out of the way then back into his lane.
Of course, the back rear was now on the concrete, throwing up a huge, shower of orange sparks. It slowly ground to a halt. The driver dude jumped out and poured his beer onto it! He was freeking out.
I was the first to go around him. They later closed the tunnel to clean it up.
Can you imagine a head-on 120mph collision with a truck wheel, rolling straight at you.....inside of a tunnel? The first guy swerved, not sure what happened to the wheel after that.
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
I watched one come apart right in front of me, a few decades ago. Old, rusty truck. We were heading into an underwater tunnel too. I saw something odd, then saw sparks, so I slowed way down. The back left wheel really began to wobble, then suddenly separated! It passed the truck body straight into head-on traffic....inside the tunnel!
One guy in a Camero did Chevy proud the way he quickly swerved out of the way then back into his lane.
Of course, the back rear was now on the concrete, throwing up a huge, shower of orange sparks. It slowly ground to a halt. The driver dude jumped out and poured his beer onto it! He was freeking out.
I was the first to go around him. They later closed the tunnel to clean it up.
Can you imagine a head-on 120mph collision with a truck wheel, rolling straight at you.....inside of a tunnel? The first guy swerved, not sure what happened to the wheel after that.
And for some more on this...
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/10/01/mythbusters-on-head-on-collisions/
Mythbusters tested it and two cars, each travelling at 50mph going head on do not do the same damage to each as a single 100mph car that hits an immovable object.
Each car in the head-on looked most like the 50mph car into an immovable object than the 100mph car into the immovable object.
Originally Posted By: deanm11
Love your story but let me just point out a myth- two cars (or a car and a truck wheel) doing 60mph in opposite directions don't make a 120mph collision. Each side has the same kind of crash (at worst, assuming each instantly stops in the crash, no glancing off) as hitting a brick wall at 60mph. To understand this, see how either party in the crash effectively decelerates from 60 to 0 in nearly no time, just like when hitting the brick wall. What is doubled is the total energy in the crash - because there are two parties having the crash.
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
I watched one come apart right in front of me, a few decades ago. Old, rusty truck. We were heading into an underwater tunnel too. I saw something odd, then saw sparks, so I slowed way down. The back left wheel really began to wobble, then suddenly separated! It passed the truck body straight into head-on traffic....inside the tunnel!
One guy in a Camero did Chevy proud the way he quickly swerved out of the way then back into his lane.
Of course, the back rear was now on the concrete, throwing up a huge, shower of orange sparks. It slowly ground to a halt. The driver dude jumped out and poured his beer onto it! He was freeking out.
I was the first to go around him. They later closed the tunnel to clean it up.
Can you imagine a head-on 120mph collision with a truck wheel, rolling straight at you.....inside of a tunnel? The first guy swerved, not sure what happened to the wheel after that.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2012/10/01/mythbusters-on-head-on-collisions/
Mythbusters tested it and two cars, each travelling at 50mph going head on do not do the same damage to each as a single 100mph car that hits an immovable object.
Each car in the head-on looked most like the 50mph car into an immovable object than the 100mph car into the immovable object.
Originally Posted By: deanm11
Love your story but let me just point out a myth- two cars (or a car and a truck wheel) doing 60mph in opposite directions don't make a 120mph collision. Each side has the same kind of crash (at worst, assuming each instantly stops in the crash, no glancing off) as hitting a brick wall at 60mph. To understand this, see how either party in the crash effectively decelerates from 60 to 0 in nearly no time, just like when hitting the brick wall. What is doubled is the total energy in the crash - because there are two parties having the crash.
Originally Posted By: sleddriver
I watched one come apart right in front of me, a few decades ago. Old, rusty truck. We were heading into an underwater tunnel too. I saw something odd, then saw sparks, so I slowed way down. The back left wheel really began to wobble, then suddenly separated! It passed the truck body straight into head-on traffic....inside the tunnel!
One guy in a Camero did Chevy proud the way he quickly swerved out of the way then back into his lane.
Of course, the back rear was now on the concrete, throwing up a huge, shower of orange sparks. It slowly ground to a halt. The driver dude jumped out and poured his beer onto it! He was freeking out.
I was the first to go around him. They later closed the tunnel to clean it up.
Can you imagine a head-on 120mph collision with a truck wheel, rolling straight at you.....inside of a tunnel? The first guy swerved, not sure what happened to the wheel after that.
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We saw a warranty return come through our lab that was as bad.
Thanks for the pictures. I'll pass them around our lab.
Thanks for the pictures. I'll pass them around our lab.
Originally Posted By: camrydriver111
Not everyone can change out a wheel bearing themselves.
True but they can hear or feel something isn't right, bring it to someone who can check it/fix it, and get it fixed.
Not everyone can change out a wheel bearing themselves.
True but they can hear or feel something isn't right, bring it to someone who can check it/fix it, and get it fixed.
Originally Posted By: Olas
I have absolutely NO sympathy for people who are too lazy or too stupid or too cheap to buy tools and actively engage in a preventative maintenance regime.
You do realize some people don't have the talent/and or facility for working on their own cars......don't you?
I have absolutely NO sympathy for people who are too lazy or too stupid or too cheap to buy tools and actively engage in a preventative maintenance regime.
You do realize some people don't have the talent/and or facility for working on their own cars......don't you?
Originally Posted By: CKN
Originally Posted By: Olas
I have absolutely NO sympathy for people who are too lazy or too stupid or too cheap to buy tools and actively engage in a preventative maintenance regime.
You do realize some people don't have the talent/and or facility for working on their own cars......don't you?
Or have the time yet not the talent--but still attempt the job (go see the oil pan thread).
Originally Posted By: Olas
I have absolutely NO sympathy for people who are too lazy or too stupid or too cheap to buy tools and actively engage in a preventative maintenance regime.
You do realize some people don't have the talent/and or facility for working on their own cars......don't you?
Or have the time yet not the talent--but still attempt the job (go see the oil pan thread).
I remember a rather long discussion with a quite obnoxious friend years ago on this topic. I took your position. He swore up & down I was wrong. Neither he (nor I) could defend our positions with math. No internet to look it up either. My EE background had very little mechanics....
So I was right after all, eh? He's now dead unfortunately. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did smoking a pack/day.
If you & the tire are both doing 60mph and heading straight towards each other, your time to act will be cut in half vs. heading straight into a bridge pillar. The damage done may still be enough to kill you. After all, this occurred in the mid-80's.
So I was right after all, eh? He's now dead unfortunately. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did smoking a pack/day.
If you & the tire are both doing 60mph and heading straight towards each other, your time to act will be cut in half vs. heading straight into a bridge pillar. The damage done may still be enough to kill you. After all, this occurred in the mid-80's.
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