Can't argue with that. Don't know about mostly....sloth and a few other are topping out the top 7.
What is this country coming to?
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Gary even your convoluted logic can't blame this despicable behavior on a the free market and you know it.
Who blamed the free market? I don't know how in the world you managed to infuse nanny politics into your post. I'm sure many of those people are perfectly solvent and functional economically.
Gary even your convoluted logic can't blame this despicable behavior on a the free market and you know it.
Who blamed the free market? I don't know how in the world you managed to infuse nanny politics into your post. I'm sure many of those people are perfectly solvent and functional economically.
Ok, they can have a gentle ramp going up to the store, but the exit can be a treadmill where you stand still and slide down, generating electricity as you leave the store.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Who blamed the free market?
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
To expect civility in the midst of a competitive environment by 'nature' is naive at best.
Who blamed the free market?
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
To expect civility in the midst of a competitive environment by 'nature' is naive at best.
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Originally Posted By: Pablo
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Who blamed the free market?
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
To expect civility in the midst of a competitive environment by 'nature' is naive at best.
They shoot horses, don't they?
..but I do see your point. "The PIT" on the trading floor doesn't look too much different. Every day is Black Friday on Wall St.
You're right, Pabs, it is the free market that does this to us. Sorry, my bad.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Who blamed the free market?
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
To expect civility in the midst of a competitive environment by 'nature' is naive at best.
They shoot horses, don't they?
..but I do see your point. "The PIT" on the trading floor doesn't look too much different. Every day is Black Friday on Wall St.
You're right, Pabs, it is the free market that does this to us. Sorry, my bad.
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Hmmm.....how about this for a starter: a huge amount of people who think they can depend on "someone else" (insert Government) to rescue their sorry backsides, and a Government that continues to attempt to do so.....in a sad cycle of savage voter dependency.
If people had a REAL downside to overspending, such as free market bankruptcy and the poor house waiting for them, I doubt they would kill each other trying to buy junk they don't need with money they don't have.
Gary even your convoluted logic can't blame this despicable behavior on a the free market and you know it. Most of these people have never even experienced REAL consequences for their most stupid financial actions.....a cartoon economic life.
How does the big bad "Government" even factor in that way?
We have an overhyped day for spending and people gave into mob mentality. That guy was killed and locally we had incidents of fist fights over saving ten bucks on some c*r*a*p.
Government? I'm fine with police, fire, and military protection. Paved roads for my car and banning heavy metals from consumer products are fine with me too. I wish it was all free but you gotta pay for stuff. Maybe that makes me a leftie or something.
Hmmm.....how about this for a starter: a huge amount of people who think they can depend on "someone else" (insert Government) to rescue their sorry backsides, and a Government that continues to attempt to do so.....in a sad cycle of savage voter dependency.
If people had a REAL downside to overspending, such as free market bankruptcy and the poor house waiting for them, I doubt they would kill each other trying to buy junk they don't need with money they don't have.
Gary even your convoluted logic can't blame this despicable behavior on a the free market and you know it. Most of these people have never even experienced REAL consequences for their most stupid financial actions.....a cartoon economic life.
How does the big bad "Government" even factor in that way?
We have an overhyped day for spending and people gave into mob mentality. That guy was killed and locally we had incidents of fist fights over saving ten bucks on some c*r*a*p.
Government? I'm fine with police, fire, and military protection. Paved roads for my car and banning heavy metals from consumer products are fine with me too. I wish it was all free but you gotta pay for stuff. Maybe that makes me a leftie or something.
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It was your words, your point, what can I say? I say it's greedy people with no morals and the theoretical large teat in the sky monetary reserve system. You want to call it "nanny politics"? I guess.
I think Tiny should have had a stun gun, taser, cattle prod....that will solve the problem...
I think Tiny should have had a stun gun, taser, cattle prod....that will solve the problem...
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No Pabs...it's lab rats that are responding to the proper stimuli. Simple as that.
It's the professors that need to get the shock collar for a while.
It's the professors that need to get the shock collar for a while.
My goodness. I'm NOT blaming Government directly. Sheesh....I'm not saying this party or that party, that's for sure. But look at the fine example and connect the dots.
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No Pabs...it's lab rats that are responding to the proper stimuli. Simple as that.
It's the professors that need to get the shock collar for a while.
So in a plain language of your choice, name these "professors".
No Pabs...it's lab rats that are responding to the proper stimuli. Simple as that.
It's the professors that need to get the shock collar for a while.
So in a plain language of your choice, name these "professors".
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We have been conditioned to buy now or miss out on a finite number of available products. You can't typically buy a winter coat in winter. Nor summer fashions in summer.
When you've got producers and vendors playing a game of top this in getting to market (which one would surely view as "slide or be slid") ..one will find an equal response on the demand end of it.
Target had a sale on Wii (not Black Friday). People lined up ..and Target handed out numbered tickets for the limit of the inventory. No stampede. Now that didn't stop the frenzy, per se~. There were people who "scalped" the tickets to those willing to bid for the right to buy. Not much to be made on a 50% reduction ..so there were few takers.
When you've got producers and vendors playing a game of top this in getting to market (which one would surely view as "slide or be slid") ..one will find an equal response on the demand end of it.
Target had a sale on Wii (not Black Friday). People lined up ..and Target handed out numbered tickets for the limit of the inventory. No stampede. Now that didn't stop the frenzy, per se~. There were people who "scalped" the tickets to those willing to bid for the right to buy. Not much to be made on a 50% reduction ..so there were few takers.
It's simply the "American Way" which is rammed down our throats every time we look at TV, listen to the radio, read a paper or magazine, even log on to a website....
Spend money, buy, obtain, possess stuff....
Spend money, buy, obtain, possess stuff....
ASre people over there high up disgussing this disgraceful episode?
If you want to fix a problem you need to get over being self righteous and fix it where it is most practical to fix it.
It is far more practical to have stores implement proper mob control than it is to issue every Walmart shopper desirable human characteristics.
Not a matter of self righteousness; a matter of self control. Something that needs to be taught in the home. Sorry (again) but i'm not holding Walmart responsible for the behavior of their shoppers.
It is far more practical to have stores implement proper mob control than it is to issue every Walmart shopper desirable human characteristics.
Not a matter of self righteousness; a matter of self control. Something that needs to be taught in the home. Sorry (again) but i'm not holding Walmart responsible for the behavior of their shoppers.
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Sorry (again) but i'm not holding Walmart responsible for the behavior of their shoppers.
Wal-Mart is certaily aware of their kind of clientele. No, I'm not saying that everybody who shoes belongs to the plebs, but you do not hear of people getting stomped on or crushed to death at Macy's or Bloomingdale's. I would say the store management should be aware of the expected behavior and implement appropriate crowd control measures. Think coralling people, then "funneling" them like cattle in measured numbers through reinforced doors. Renegades can be tased as needed.
Sorry (again) but i'm not holding Walmart responsible for the behavior of their shoppers.
Wal-Mart is certaily aware of their kind of clientele. No, I'm not saying that everybody who shoes belongs to the plebs, but you do not hear of people getting stomped on or crushed to death at Macy's or Bloomingdale's. I would say the store management should be aware of the expected behavior and implement appropriate crowd control measures. Think coralling people, then "funneling" them like cattle in measured numbers through reinforced doors. Renegades can be tased as needed.
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I've seen reports of people being robbed while waiting in line.
What it will result in, probably in the form of a local ordinance(s), is that the store opening at those hours will be required to hire armed police to handle crowd control outside the store. That should be enough to calm the stampede. A $5k bloated bill should do it.
What it will result in, probably in the form of a local ordinance(s), is that the store opening at those hours will be required to hire armed police to handle crowd control outside the store. That should be enough to calm the stampede. A $5k bloated bill should do it.
I live about 5 minutes or so from that store, a very sad event. I've made it a point never to shop there, and won't allow my wife to go there either, and will continue to do so. The risk doesn't = the reward.
I wasn't in the least bit surprised when I heard about it. What is even sadder is when the police told people they had to leave, they were given an argument.
Edit to add: I agree with Frank2009, Walmart is not to blame for the actions of their customers.
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I wasn't in the least bit surprised when I heard about it. What is even sadder is when the police told people they had to leave, they were given an argument.
Edit to add: I agree with Frank2009, Walmart is not to blame for the actions of their customers.
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Walmart is not to blame for the actions of their customers.
No, they're not. Nor am I responsible for a berzerker crack addict's behavior ..but if I hold a berzerker crack addict convention, I had better be prepared for the potential side effects ...or someone is going to get hurt.
Walmart is not to blame for the actions of their customers.
No, they're not. Nor am I responsible for a berzerker crack addict's behavior ..but if I hold a berzerker crack addict convention, I had better be prepared for the potential side effects ...or someone is going to get hurt.
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ASre people over there high up disgussing this disgraceful episode?
No. They will just "BLAME WALMART".
ASre people over there high up disgussing this disgraceful episode?
No. They will just "BLAME WALMART".
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