What do we think of the Jeep Renegade?
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Take the money and start over, if you get it all back. Not the best sign in the world to happen on an almost new car. It did have 8k of unknown use including sales people use demonstrating it. That could be the reason right there for the failure. But it seems you would have to hire your own car for awhile unless there is another.
My mother has one a few years now she bought new. It's fancier than yours but neither my dad nor I care for it, she is too vehicle ignorant to notice was a heap it is. It looks cute that's all she cared about when she bought it.
As stated before it's not a Jeep. You already had your warning with the model and your dealer is going way above and beyond. Take the refund and run.
There are Jeeps you will be much happier with long term, like a Grand Cherokee.
As stated before it's not a Jeep. You already had your warning with the model and your dealer is going way above and beyond. Take the refund and run.
There are Jeeps you will be much happier with long term, like a Grand Cherokee.
Originally Posted by KCJeep
My mother has one a few years now she bought new. It's fancier than yours but neither my dad nor I care for it, she is too vehicle ignorant to notice was a heap it is. It looks cute that's all she cared about when she bought it.
As stated before it's not a Jeep. You already had your warning with the model and your dealer is going way above and beyond. Take the refund and run.
There are Jeeps you will be much happier with long term, like a Grand Cherokee.
Why would the OP want a GC in the land of expensive gas and narrow roads?
My mother has one a few years now she bought new. It's fancier than yours but neither my dad nor I care for it, she is too vehicle ignorant to notice was a heap it is. It looks cute that's all she cared about when she bought it.
As stated before it's not a Jeep. You already had your warning with the model and your dealer is going way above and beyond. Take the refund and run.
There are Jeeps you will be much happier with long term, like a Grand Cherokee.
Why would the OP want a GC in the land of expensive gas and narrow roads?
You're right I missed he was from the UK. Never the less get out of the Renegade for sure.
Cheers for the replies all. I'm shocked at the amount of dislike towards an American brand on here, even if they are made by Fiat.
Our standard fuel is the equivalent of your 91 octane over in the US. Currently it's around £6.05 per US gallon, it's also only E5 at the moment, but I think E10 is coming. What's upsetting is the fuel is only around 20% of that cost, the rest is road duty and VAT.
Anyway,
My Wife can't think of anything else she fancies so looks like we are stuck with the Jeep. Whether we decide to stay with the 2018 model or whether we decide to swap for the 2017 model and pocket an amount of cash, I'm unsure.
I must admit I'm very anti-crossover, but it keeps my Wife happy so I shouldn't complain too much. We have the Defender should we need a four wheel drive, my Mother has a Suzuki Jimmny too.
I was excited to find out the e.Torq is so closely linked to the Tritec engine, they even share the same head gasket! Wonder if it would be possible to use a Cooper S bottom end with the e.Torq 16v head and put some boost into it?
Our standard fuel is the equivalent of your 91 octane over in the US. Currently it's around £6.05 per US gallon, it's also only E5 at the moment, but I think E10 is coming. What's upsetting is the fuel is only around 20% of that cost, the rest is road duty and VAT.
Anyway,
My Wife can't think of anything else she fancies so looks like we are stuck with the Jeep. Whether we decide to stay with the 2018 model or whether we decide to swap for the 2017 model and pocket an amount of cash, I'm unsure.
I must admit I'm very anti-crossover, but it keeps my Wife happy so I shouldn't complain too much. We have the Defender should we need a four wheel drive, my Mother has a Suzuki Jimmny too.
I was excited to find out the e.Torq is so closely linked to the Tritec engine, they even share the same head gasket! Wonder if it would be possible to use a Cooper S bottom end with the e.Torq 16v head and put some boost into it?
Originally Posted by rob1715
I have a friend who is an indie mechanic. All Fiat/Chrysler products keeps him so busy it's difficult for him to do anything else.
Fiat/Chrysler and GM keep a lot of mechanics busy. But what do you expect? Chrysler has been bailed out twice by us taxpayers in 30 years.
My first car was a Mopar and it was well built. It's a shame to see what they are now.
I have a friend who is an indie mechanic. All Fiat/Chrysler products keeps him so busy it's difficult for him to do anything else.
Fiat/Chrysler and GM keep a lot of mechanics busy. But what do you expect? Chrysler has been bailed out twice by us taxpayers in 30 years.
My first car was a Mopar and it was well built. It's a shame to see what they are now.
I figured the Mopar posse, or should I say cult, would show up sooner or later to bash every member who is advising this lemon owner to protect his own financial interests, while he still can. No OP, you are supposed to just grin and bear it, because misery loves company.
REFUND!!! There is no other option!
I'd take the refund. I've rented the Renegade a number of times. I don't care for them one bit. (Note: I often rent 2-3 vehicles per week and I drive A LOT)
Unfortunately, the Renegade is a low quality product, one that is prone to mechanical problems.
Originally Posted by Bailes1992
I'm shocked at the amount of dislike towards an American brand on here, even if they are made by Fiat.
As far as some kind of "anti American brand bias"... That's just not so. American consumers tend to like quality products that do the job properly, with only a passing nod to who makes it. Our needs are very different than the UK, so we tend to drive far larger vehicles.
I'm always happy when an American company makes a good product. But I don't limit myself to American products. I drive a Jaguar and F150.
American products that tend to be really good:
Corvette
F150/Ram/Chevy trucks
Mustang V8
Charger/Challenger
and the associated spin off vehicles such as the Tahoe and Expedition.
You'll note they all come with powerful engines and are quite large.
Unfortunately, the Renegade is a low quality product, one that is prone to mechanical problems.
Originally Posted by Bailes1992
I'm shocked at the amount of dislike towards an American brand on here, even if they are made by Fiat.
As far as some kind of "anti American brand bias"... That's just not so. American consumers tend to like quality products that do the job properly, with only a passing nod to who makes it. Our needs are very different than the UK, so we tend to drive far larger vehicles.
I'm always happy when an American company makes a good product. But I don't limit myself to American products. I drive a Jaguar and F150.
American products that tend to be really good:
Corvette
F150/Ram/Chevy trucks
Mustang V8
Charger/Challenger
and the associated spin off vehicles such as the Tahoe and Expedition.
You'll note they all come with powerful engines and are quite large.
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AZjeff
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Originally Posted by Bailes1992
Our standard fuel is the equivalent of your 91 octane over in the US. Currently it's around £6.05 per US gallon,
Stand corrected, his gas is just under $8/gallon. Ouch. So Bailes, if wife likes the Renegade best.... what was the question again?
Our standard fuel is the equivalent of your 91 octane over in the US. Currently it's around £6.05 per US gallon,
Stand corrected, his gas is just under $8/gallon. Ouch. So Bailes, if wife likes the Renegade best.... what was the question again?
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I'm not a big FCA fan, but Option 3 sounds decent. Extra warranty and money back in your pocket.
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Originally Posted by wdn
I figured the Mopar posse, or should I say cult, would show up sooner or later to bash every member who is advising this lemon owner to protect his own financial interests, while he still can. No OP, you are supposed to just grin and bear it, because misery loves company.
I see the anti-FCA Klan has shown up, torches in-hand, ready to deal judgement and [censored] on anyone providing a response that's slight more reasoned than "DUMP IT IMMEDIATELY!".
Will you be recommending a Corolla or a 4Runner today?
I figured the Mopar posse, or should I say cult, would show up sooner or later to bash every member who is advising this lemon owner to protect his own financial interests, while he still can. No OP, you are supposed to just grin and bear it, because misery loves company.
I see the anti-FCA Klan has shown up, torches in-hand, ready to deal judgement and [censored] on anyone providing a response that's slight more reasoned than "DUMP IT IMMEDIATELY!".
Will you be recommending a Corolla or a 4Runner today?
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OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
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Originally Posted by AZjeff
OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
See my earlier response in the thread, specifically directed at the OP with respect to his situation. Would I own one personally? No, I'm not a fan of most of the FIAT-based cars/SUV's/CUV's based on what I've heard and seen at my dealership, I think the old Mercedes shared platforms are more solid. But if his wife is fixated on this vehicle, that eliminates the option of taking the cash, so then it comes down to his faith in the technical competence of the dealership. If he trust their repair work, I think holding onto the 2018 with lower mileage is probably the better move.
And actually, I've traditionally been a Ford guy
However, I'm friends with the owner of my FCA dealership. He looks after me and has recommended the last few vehicles we've owned (save the EcoDiesel) and his recommendations have always panned out.
OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
See my earlier response in the thread, specifically directed at the OP with respect to his situation. Would I own one personally? No, I'm not a fan of most of the FIAT-based cars/SUV's/CUV's based on what I've heard and seen at my dealership, I think the old Mercedes shared platforms are more solid. But if his wife is fixated on this vehicle, that eliminates the option of taking the cash, so then it comes down to his faith in the technical competence of the dealership. If he trust their repair work, I think holding onto the 2018 with lower mileage is probably the better move.
And actually, I've traditionally been a Ford guy
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by AZjeff
OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
See my earlier response in the thread, specifically directed at the OP with respect to his situation. Would I own one personally? No, I'm not a fan of most of the FIAT-based cars/SUV's/CUV's based on what I've heard and seen at my dealership, I think the old Mercedes shared platforms are more solid.
And they were more solid. One of the main reasons Fiat wanted a stake in Chrysler was to have access to Chrysler's dealer network for their low quality cars. And that went so well that Fiat barely sells anything here anymore. But Fiat has been incorporating a lot of their lousy electronics and electrical systems into Chrysler vehicles. Ask your buddy at the dealership.
The fact of the matter is there are MUCH better quality vehicles available in the market. If this hurts some feelings, oh well.
Originally Posted by AZjeff
OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
See my earlier response in the thread, specifically directed at the OP with respect to his situation. Would I own one personally? No, I'm not a fan of most of the FIAT-based cars/SUV's/CUV's based on what I've heard and seen at my dealership, I think the old Mercedes shared platforms are more solid.
And they were more solid. One of the main reasons Fiat wanted a stake in Chrysler was to have access to Chrysler's dealer network for their low quality cars. And that went so well that Fiat barely sells anything here anymore. But Fiat has been incorporating a lot of their lousy electronics and electrical systems into Chrysler vehicles. Ask your buddy at the dealership.
The fact of the matter is there are MUCH better quality vehicles available in the market. If this hurts some feelings, oh well.
Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by AZjeff
OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
See my earlier response in the thread, specifically directed at the OP with respect to his situation. Would I own one personally? No, I'm not a fan of most of the FIAT-based cars/SUV's/CUV's based on what I've heard and seen at my dealership, I think the old Mercedes shared platforms are more solid.
And they were more solid. One of the main reasons Fiat wanted a stake in Chrysler was to have access to Chrysler's dealer network for their low quality cars. And that went so well that Fiat barely sells anything here anymore. But Fiat has been incorporating a lot of their lousy electronics and electrical systems into Chrysler vehicles. Ask your buddy at the dealership.
The fact of the matter is there are MUCH better quality vehicles available in the market. If this hurts some feelings, oh well.
Do you have specific examples, or are you just making broad sweeping statements that are barely, if not completely out of touch with reality again?
Yeah, they might not be towards the top of the list, but the window between best and worst is getting narrower and narrower each year. It ain't the 1980's and 90's anymore.
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by AZjeff
OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
See my earlier response in the thread, specifically directed at the OP with respect to his situation. Would I own one personally? No, I'm not a fan of most of the FIAT-based cars/SUV's/CUV's based on what I've heard and seen at my dealership, I think the old Mercedes shared platforms are more solid.
And they were more solid. One of the main reasons Fiat wanted a stake in Chrysler was to have access to Chrysler's dealer network for their low quality cars. And that went so well that Fiat barely sells anything here anymore. But Fiat has been incorporating a lot of their lousy electronics and electrical systems into Chrysler vehicles. Ask your buddy at the dealership.
The fact of the matter is there are MUCH better quality vehicles available in the market. If this hurts some feelings, oh well.
Do you have specific examples, or are you just making broad sweeping statements that are barely, if not completely out of touch with reality again?
Yeah, they might not be towards the top of the list, but the window between best and worst is getting narrower and narrower each year. It ain't the 1980's and 90's anymore.
I think Fiat put the JEEP name on anything they think would sell. They have ruined the JEEP name IMO. Ed
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Originally Posted by PowerSurge
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by AZjeff
OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
See my earlier response in the thread, specifically directed at the OP with respect to his situation. Would I own one personally? No, I'm not a fan of most of the FIAT-based cars/SUV's/CUV's based on what I've heard and seen at my dealership, I think the old Mercedes shared platforms are more solid.
And they were more solid. One of the main reasons Fiat wanted a stake in Chrysler was to have access to Chrysler's dealer network for their low quality cars. And that went so well that Fiat barely sells anything here anymore. But Fiat has been incorporating a lot of their lousy electronics and electrical systems into Chrysler vehicles. Ask your buddy at the dealership.
The fact of the matter is there are MUCH better quality vehicles available in the market. If this hurts some feelings, oh well.
I'm not sure how deeply it permeates and perverts the non-Fiat platforms but I've seen some of the wiring stuff in the Fiat cars and it was like.... WHY?! I know the techs don't overly enjoy working on or troubleshooting the cars. The trucks, LX cars, caravans and the GC's/Durangos are comparatively much easier to work on and in the shop far, FAR less. What Fiat DID bring to the relationship was better styling (IMHO, see post-Fiat Charger for example) and better interior materials/design which in my experience, hold up as well or better than the old stuff. But that may not be universal depending on the price point the vehicle is geared towards either.
Originally Posted by OVERKILL
Originally Posted by AZjeff
OVERKILL, you're clearly a Jeep/Chrysler guy, do you think this Fiat/Jeep Renegade has the same build quality and reliability as your RAM and GC?
See my earlier response in the thread, specifically directed at the OP with respect to his situation. Would I own one personally? No, I'm not a fan of most of the FIAT-based cars/SUV's/CUV's based on what I've heard and seen at my dealership, I think the old Mercedes shared platforms are more solid.
And they were more solid. One of the main reasons Fiat wanted a stake in Chrysler was to have access to Chrysler's dealer network for their low quality cars. And that went so well that Fiat barely sells anything here anymore. But Fiat has been incorporating a lot of their lousy electronics and electrical systems into Chrysler vehicles. Ask your buddy at the dealership.
The fact of the matter is there are MUCH better quality vehicles available in the market. If this hurts some feelings, oh well.
I'm not sure how deeply it permeates and perverts the non-Fiat platforms but I've seen some of the wiring stuff in the Fiat cars and it was like.... WHY?! I know the techs don't overly enjoy working on or troubleshooting the cars. The trucks, LX cars, caravans and the GC's/Durangos are comparatively much easier to work on and in the shop far, FAR less. What Fiat DID bring to the relationship was better styling (IMHO, see post-Fiat Charger for example) and better interior materials/design which in my experience, hold up as well or better than the old stuff. But that may not be universal depending on the price point the vehicle is geared towards either.
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