Top 5 sludger engines--Need your input
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Just off the top of my head.
- Toyota 2.2L/3.0L V-6
- VW/Audi 1.8L I-4
- Chrysler 2.7L V-6
At least are the most notorious.
- Toyota 2.2L/3.0L V-6
- VW/Audi 1.8L I-4
- Chrysler 2.7L V-6
At least are the most notorious.
Me? I don't take most of these so-called sludgers seriously for I have researched the used car market for used Toys (finally bought a used Gen-5 Camry for my wifey a month ago) and have yet to come across a sludger in Canada so far.
Personally, I think this is just a number in the statistics and bears no significance whatsoever.
My 2c's worth. Don't buy a car but walk if you don't want anything to do with sludge, fossel fuels and pollution.
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Personally, I think this is just a number in the statistics and bears no significance whatsoever.
My 2c's worth. Don't buy a car but walk if you don't want anything to do with sludge, fossel fuels and pollution.
Q.
Man, i can't stand Saabs!! Ever see the engines? they are bulky, weird-looking pieces of cr*p
Jason Adcock said:
Originally Posted By: Jason Adcock
- VW/Audi 1.8L I-4
Pretty much any turbo engine that is operated with mineral oil will most likely sludge up. But that's like saying that the human body is prone to developing high cholesterol if you feed it nothing else but McDonalds.
No sludging issues were reported on this engine in Europe, where it was fed proper synthetic oil.
So yeah, here in the US, getting a used VAG 1.8T engine is risky just because VAG did not mandate the correct oil straight from the start.
- VW/Audi 1.8L I-4
Pretty much any turbo engine that is operated with mineral oil will most likely sludge up. But that's like saying that the human body is prone to developing high cholesterol if you feed it nothing else but McDonalds.
No sludging issues were reported on this engine in Europe, where it was fed proper synthetic oil.
So yeah, here in the US, getting a used VAG 1.8T engine is risky just because VAG did not mandate the correct oil straight from the start.
Originally Posted By: daves66nova
Ever see the engines? they are bulky, weird-looking pieces of cr*p
Does it really matter what the engine looks like? How often do you drive with your hood open?
Besides, there isn't much to see anyway... all covered with plastic just like any other engine these days...
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yaho...ine_640x480.jpg
Ever see the engines? they are bulky, weird-looking pieces of cr*p
Does it really matter what the engine looks like? How often do you drive with your hood open?
Besides, there isn't much to see anyway... all covered with plastic just like any other engine these days...
http://us.autos1.yimg.com/img.autos.yaho...ine_640x480.jpg
The only 1.8T VW/Audi engines that were sludge "prone" were the ones that ran North/South in the engine compartment. Passats had this type of 1.8T. Audi A4's had the sludgers as well.
The 1.8T in the Beetle, Golf and Jetta were not the problem engines.
The 1.8T in the Beetle, Golf and Jetta were not the problem engines.
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Besides, there isn't much to see anyway... all covered with plastic just like any other engine these days...
I hate those big plastic engine covers. All the new VWs come that way now. Like staring at a plastic wall. Just makes for extra work come maintenance time and makes quick visual inspects a pain.
Besides, there isn't much to see anyway... all covered with plastic just like any other engine these days...
I hate those big plastic engine covers. All the new VWs come that way now. Like staring at a plastic wall. Just makes for extra work come maintenance time and makes quick visual inspects a pain.
i happend to be a proud owner of that sludgefest chrysler 2.7liter - thats what my 300 came with and guess what .... i dont care in 15months chrysler is getting it back. so ha ha ha all the way to the bank
Saab engines bulky? Have you seen a Saab engine? Pieces of [censored]? How many turbo engines out there are putting down 15.5 psi of boost stock plus getting 30+mpg easily and thats in my 2001 Saab. Yup, these engines are [censored]...
The Ecotec engines that the new Saab uses are world acclaimed. GM uses these as well and I read nothing but praise on them.
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Originally Posted By: Saab9-3
Saab engines bulky? Have you seen a Saab engine? Pieces of [censored]? How many turbo engines out there are putting down 15.5 psi of boost stock plus getting 30+mpg easily and thats in my 2001 Saab. Yup, these engines are [censored]...
dodge 2.4L Dohc turbo 4 cylinder that comes in the Neon SRT-4 and turbo PT Cruiser.
Stock is 11-16psi depending on weather. I dynoed at 232hp 264ftlbs torque.
If I am really nice to the car, I can get 31-33 mpg all freeway, all 60-65mph. Or, I can get 6-7mpg on the roadcourse at Portland International Raceway
thats 2 engines......dont know how many more
Saab engines bulky? Have you seen a Saab engine? Pieces of [censored]? How many turbo engines out there are putting down 15.5 psi of boost stock plus getting 30+mpg easily and thats in my 2001 Saab. Yup, these engines are [censored]...
dodge 2.4L Dohc turbo 4 cylinder that comes in the Neon SRT-4 and turbo PT Cruiser.
Stock is 11-16psi depending on weather. I dynoed at 232hp 264ftlbs torque.
If I am really nice to the car, I can get 31-33 mpg all freeway, all 60-65mph. Or, I can get 6-7mpg on the roadcourse at Portland International Raceway
thats 2 engines......dont know how many more
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hooligan, thanks forgot about that engine quite impressive numbers 
Originally Posted By: Jason Adcock
Just off the top of my head.
- Toyota 2.2L/3.0L V-6
- VW/Audi 1.8L I-4
- Chrysler 2.7L V-6
At least are the most notorious.
+1 on the Toyota 2.2L. I had a 96 Camry (bought it with 20K on it) that began sludging up badly at 40K. It always burned a lot of oil as well. Too bad as it was a fun car to drive as it was a Camry with a 5 speed, which was hard to find.
Just off the top of my head.
- Toyota 2.2L/3.0L V-6
- VW/Audi 1.8L I-4
- Chrysler 2.7L V-6
At least are the most notorious.
+1 on the Toyota 2.2L. I had a 96 Camry (bought it with 20K on it) that began sludging up badly at 40K. It always burned a lot of oil as well. Too bad as it was a fun car to drive as it was a Camry with a 5 speed, which was hard to find.
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