Originally Posted by dnewton3
Let's expound on this a bit ... And rephrase the question ....
What's the worst thread about unproven hyperbole surrounding oil filters?
#1 ..... this thread
#2 ..... all the others like it
Nothing wrong with having opinions. But somehow those are taken as "fact". Inputs are just that; they play into an equation. Outputs are the important thing; let's talk results. How many seized engines are we personally aware of that are a direct result of some "feature" or "characteristic" of a filter gone bad? How much proof do we have that feature XYZ or characteristic PDQ actually makes a difference in wear control or engine longevity in REAL WORLD USE (not a trumped up lab report or HALT experiment)?
I've read countless numbers of thread about leaf vs coil springs; ADBV location; media construction; holes v. louvers; BP relief setting; BP material, etc. I see the discussion. I NEVER see any data to back it up. I NEVER see any proof that one path is "better" or "best" over some alternative. Show me data, conclusive proof, that a coil spring is truly superior to a leaf spring. Go on, do it! Any of you. Show me that louvers are "better" than holes; dig up that study where it is conclusively shown that one is "best". Come on now; don't be shy. Prove to me that a "plastic" (nylon) BP is inferior to steel; I double dog dare you!
I don't mind people asking "what's the best ...."? But they don't define the parameters well enough to get a good answer. And most answers are based on opinion and not proof.
What I mind, what I find irritating, is that most all these threads have ZERO proof attached to them.
Hey ... what's the best (oil, filter, tire, bullet size, stereo speaker, toothpaste, dental gum, paper plate, cell phone, reclining sofa, basket ball team, air purifier, thread about threads regarding a thread about the best of ....) ??????????
Here you go, real world. There are several other companies making similar filters, including another newer type Frantz. I haven't seen any other tests as well referenced as this. Taking used oil from a diesel and measuring, third party, the particle count. Then installing a Frantz and finding that data. So I say it and others similar, are #1 in auto oil filtering. Toilet paper.
https://www.frantzfilters.com/science/
Let's expound on this a bit ... And rephrase the question ....
What's the worst thread about unproven hyperbole surrounding oil filters?
#1 ..... this thread
#2 ..... all the others like it
Nothing wrong with having opinions. But somehow those are taken as "fact". Inputs are just that; they play into an equation. Outputs are the important thing; let's talk results. How many seized engines are we personally aware of that are a direct result of some "feature" or "characteristic" of a filter gone bad? How much proof do we have that feature XYZ or characteristic PDQ actually makes a difference in wear control or engine longevity in REAL WORLD USE (not a trumped up lab report or HALT experiment)?
I've read countless numbers of thread about leaf vs coil springs; ADBV location; media construction; holes v. louvers; BP relief setting; BP material, etc. I see the discussion. I NEVER see any data to back it up. I NEVER see any proof that one path is "better" or "best" over some alternative. Show me data, conclusive proof, that a coil spring is truly superior to a leaf spring. Go on, do it! Any of you. Show me that louvers are "better" than holes; dig up that study where it is conclusively shown that one is "best". Come on now; don't be shy. Prove to me that a "plastic" (nylon) BP is inferior to steel; I double dog dare you!
I don't mind people asking "what's the best ...."? But they don't define the parameters well enough to get a good answer. And most answers are based on opinion and not proof.
What I mind, what I find irritating, is that most all these threads have ZERO proof attached to them.
Hey ... what's the best (oil, filter, tire, bullet size, stereo speaker, toothpaste, dental gum, paper plate, cell phone, reclining sofa, basket ball team, air purifier, thread about threads regarding a thread about the best of ....) ??????????
Here you go, real world. There are several other companies making similar filters, including another newer type Frantz. I haven't seen any other tests as well referenced as this. Taking used oil from a diesel and measuring, third party, the particle count. Then installing a Frantz and finding that data. So I say it and others similar, are #1 in auto oil filtering. Toilet paper.
https://www.frantzfilters.com/science/