Titanium?

[UncleRunkle]

I was cruising in the PMCO forums and have seen a couple of developments coming from Conoc Phillips. One was the use of titanium (they call it liquid titanium) as an anti-wear or friction reducer similar to Moly. Is there a tribological stand point brewing from the board members here as to the viability of Ti as an oil additive? They seem to be posting up some pretty impressive wear stats from their own testing...In their press release they list XX% wear reduction in a couple of tests, but I wonder what the % gained is measured against (ie which oil is it xx% better than?)

Any way here is the link
http://www.jobbersworld.com/november 18 2008.htm

 

[John K]

This has been posted here though I can't find it right now.....

 

[MolaKule]

Titanium compounds have been researched for the past 5 years.

These compounds are just one of many being researched as improved friction and /or anti-wear agents.

 

[UncleRunkle]

Originally Posted By: MolaKule
Titanium compounds have been researched for the past 5 years.

These compounds are just one of many being researched as improved friction and /or anti-wear agents.


Yes "researched", but is CP the first Major blender to bring it to the commercial/retail level? If they are, are they that far ahead of the others; or are they forging ahead on something that is still an emerging technology with possible unforeseen consequences?

 

[bruce381]

its afton stuff

 

[UncleRunkle]

Afton is the additive supplier, but do they drive the research/formulation/blending?

 

[LargeCarManX2]

It's like pulling teeth sometimes

 

[bruce381]

Originally Posted By: UncleRunkle
Afton is the additive supplier, but do they drive the research/formulation/blending?


I do not know for sure but I do think so

 

[MolaKule]

Quote:
Afton is the additive supplier, but do they drive the research/formulation/blending?


Universities and the additive makers do most of the research, so they are the ones driving new research and discovering new additives. Include Infnineum, RT Vanderbuilt, Lubrizol, Angus, Dow, Roh Max, King Industries, Akzo Nobel, Rhein Chemie, Ultra Additive (Munzig), and about half-a-dozen other companies whose names I don't recall at the moment, all supply and/or formulate additives.