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[jonny-b]

Mystic, I see that you still haven't understood that you get your money back, when you deliver back the used Synlube, since you claim Amsoil being lower priced. How can I make it go in into your head?

Do you need a picture, or a drawing?

Just asking, since I have said it quite a few times, now.

The Synlube is free to use, since you get the money back, when you return it.

Should I say it again?

By the way, do you have any relatives from Missouri?

 

[bruce381]

IMHO as long as the engine has oil flow 50,000 mile OCI is doable with any "regular" oil.

In that any decent SL or better oil (without moly, graphite, teflon or PTFE which is teflon, teflon is du ponts trade name) will work as long as if flows. Meaning change filters as needed keep oil topped off.

Remeber if you "burn" or leak a quart every 3-5K miles adding a quart new will put back 25% of the add pak and that can continue for years.

Sludge and varnish will build up but if oils flows and sludge and varnish do not cause heat transfer issues you can keep on trucking.

ZDDP over time as it ages will increase in wear protection.

Even rust and corrion on open metal may not be a big deal in that static engine surface will have a nice varnish layer to protect from rust.

Most engine kabooms are due to NO oil or metal fatigue.

Would I run 50K oil changes? back when i was to busy I did
sometimes 60K without any problems at 300K engine sucked a valve.

Biggest problem other than cost for the high solid oil synlube would be IMHO be spark plug fouling depending on blow bye and valve seal leakage from the very high solids.

That said will this oil reduce wear form a "regular oil"
do not know.

Normal wear rates are very low with modern oils

My 2 cents worth read it or not.
bruce

 

[Mystic]

Originally Posted By: jonny-b
Mystic, I see that you still haven't understood that you get your money back, when you deliver back the used Synlube, since you claim Amsoil being lower priced. How can I make it go in into your head?

Do you need a picture, or a drawing?

Just asking, since I have said it quite a few times, now.

The Synlube is free to use, since you get the money back, when you return it.

Should I say it again?

By the way, do you have any relatives from Missouri?




What is your problem with people from Missouri, jonny-b? Do you believe in some silly myth that everybody in Missouri is inferior? Do I need to find data on how many scientists, engineers, doctors, university professors, presidents have come from the state of Missouri? I am sure there are people at this website who live in Missouri. Are you making yourself popular with them? I live in Colorado. You want to make some remarks about people from Colorado? And what do you know about Missouri or for that matter Colorado anyway? Have you ever been in Missouri? Have you ever been in the USA? You need to do some travelling perhaps and find out about people elsewhere in the world. My brother has been in 100 countries.

You keep trying to make me angry with all the insults. Actually, I feel sorry for you. How do you really feel you are making yourself appear to any mature adult at this website?

Will you ever be able to rise above all of this? And if you do keep up all the insults here you eventually will get into trouble. You could probably be reported right now to a moderator for remarks you have made about the intelligence of a member here, remarks about Americans, and remarks about people from Missouri. Your statement is right there in at least one of your posts. The moderators are watching. Sooner of later all of these silly insults and statements about people from Missouri, etc., will likely get you into trouble. We shall see.

 

[TurboJim]

Missouri is the "show me" state, is it not?

 

[Mystic]

In any case jonny-b, you have lost me as a potential customer of your Synlube. I will never buy it. I do not know what exactly is your connection with this product. Maybe you are just a very devoted customer. Maybe not. But you have succeeded well in insuring that I will never try this product. I would rather use any other motor oil-Castrol, Valvoline, Pennzoil, QS, Chevron, Mobil, whatever. Good job jonny-b. You did a fine job representing your beloved Synlube.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: jonny-b
Mystic, I see that you still haven't understood that you get your money back, when you deliver back the used Synlube, since you claim Amsoil being lower priced. How can I make it go in into your head?

Do you need a picture, or a drawing?

Just asking, since I have said it quite a few times, now.

The Synlube is free to use, since you get the money back, when you return it.

Should I say it again?

By the way, do you have any relatives from Missouri?



The insults won't sell product, a few people have learned this lesson the hard way here.
I don't think they'd give the money back without making you jump through hoops for it. Sorry I don't fall for the hype, or the bells and whistles. I can return used oil for a refund? Why not just give the oil away for free?

As far as Pennzoil, I'd sooner do business with a company I trust.

Have you read this thread, seems some pretty well respected members weighed in. They weren't impressed, I'd stick with their assessments of the product. But hey go for it! Your money spend it as you see fit.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/posts/1805493/

 

[Mystic]

The more this jonny-b talks probably fewer and fewer people here will be willing to try Synlube. Maybe Synlube needs to contact jonny-b. One thing for sure. Synlube might not sell very well in Missouri.

And whatever happened to his trusty sidekick-the guy whose posts gave me a headache when I tried to read them.

It sure is curious all of these Synlube devoted fans suddenly appearing at this website. Not to imply anything you understand but I am sure a lot of people are wondering about all of this.

You do have to admit these Synlube fanatics are entertaining.

 

[demarpaint]

Seems Synlube is quite popular, these days. I doubt anyone is buying in on any of this though.

 

[Mystic]

I will say that so far I prefer this new captain_kirk guy than the other Synlube fanatics. That guy may have set a record for the most replies to a posting by a brand new member. And man he can go a mile a minute, can't he? But some of his statements are pretty questionable.

I don't know where all of these Synlube fans are coming from. They seem to be cropping up all over. But captain_kirk is a better version I think than the other two I have seen-at least so far.

 

[Trajan]

I have to wonder just how Synlube makes any money if they will buy back my used oil for what I paid fot it, as stated earlier.

Then again, it was also stated that they sell the used oil for $50 US.

One would think that if you could go much, much further on an OCI, car mfgs would jump on it.

The avg OCI on a BMW is 15k or 1/year. At least for mine. So one must ask just why they don't jump all over this.

Think of it!! No oil change for the entire warranty period!!! Or, if they still do the 15/1, the oil costs them nothing.

But then again, Synlube isn't ACEA approved. Oh well.......

Sorry again. Got to go with Mystic and demarpaint on this one.

And synlube lovers, insulting people who don't agree with you does not help your credibility.

 

[Mystic]

Thanks Trajan!

 

[Mystic]

Just another thought also Trajan. I don't know a lot about European motor oil requirements, but isn't ACEA a European requirement? And if Synlube does not meet that European requirement that is pretty interesting. The new captain_kirk Synlube fan made a statement that even European conventional motor oils are better than Mobil 1. But if Synlube does not even meet European requirements....?

 

[Trajan]

You're welcome

ACEA is the main lobbying and standards group for the auto industries in Europe.

http://www.acea.be/

Funny how he says that Euro conv oil is better than M1. According to Doug Hillary, there are 100 approved oils on Porshe's list, for example. And they factory fill with Mobil 1.

AFAIK, there are no conv oils on BMW's approved list, (1998 on) M1 0w-40 is on the list. (In fact, it says European Formula on the bottle.
And German Castrol 0w-30, which is also ACEA approved, is on the list.)

Now, there are oils that claim to meet/exceed ACEA specs. But they won't spend the money for the test. So I take those claims with a pinch of salt. I'll bet that none of them have a letter from BMw, Porsche, etc saying that their oil is too good.

 

[Trajan]

I was reading a manual for a late model M the other day. It states that the oil is to be changed in the first 1200 miles.

Now I've never had a new car, but I imagine it is to get rid of all the break in metal wear and such.

So, where does all that stuff go if it was filled with Synlube? Dissolve into nothingness? Assuming that they make a 10w-60 oil in the first place.

 

[jonny-b]

Hi, again.

I really don't care what oil you use or not.
I am just trying to tell about an option that you have chosen not to use, when it comes to oil.

I am not selling this oil.

I can see that you still haven't been able to read(and understand) anything at their homepage.
Or at the other board, where there is a tread, about it.

It is quite interesting to see that you have understood all aspects about it, without even getting some info about it.

I wish my brain was working that way. NOT.

About insults; I see that it goes both ways.
I'm comfortable with that, since I am used to several types of people (and, it is quite fun anyway).

Seeing people getting so excited about things they don't understand and their reluctance to learn something about it so that they will understand, is also interesting.

The easiest thing to do, is what you have done; say that you know everything about oil, and don't listen to anyone that has any ideas that can tear your world apart

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: jonny-b


I can see that you still haven't been able to read(and understand) anything at their homepage.


It is quite interesting to see that you have understood all aspects about it, without even getting some info about it.

I wish my brain was working that way. NOT.




What is there to understand about their homepage? It is like any other company that is trying to sell something. Are we to believe without question a companies sales pitch? Especially from a website?


There are certain products that defy logic, common sense, science, and other things. If we took every product sold based on sales print, and hype, as Gospel we'd be broke, and one stupid bunch of people. This product is all bells, whistles, smoke and mirrors. At least after reading through these threads that's how many of us feel. No offense jonny, I tell it like I see it. JMO

 

[jonny-b]

Hi, Demarpaint.

What is to understand, is that their oil is working as advertised.

And that people dealing with them, get exactly what the homepage says they will.

I believe in listening to people that actually have been using a product, more than a homepage.

But, some times when you find USERS that confirm several things the homepage says, I think it will just add credibility to that product.
Even though it is a rude Norwegian, like me

I can be many things, but one of them, is honest.

And sometimes too straightforward.

 

[demarpaint]

I have said many times I look for testimony from real world people. Let me add, lots of real world people. So far there isn't to much of that on this site about Synlube. If that changes it will be on my radar screen. For now I just feel their claims are a little to hard to believe, FOR ME. But then again Mystic and I are two old timers, frozen in time.

 

[jonny-b]

Yes, I think you probably will use what you feel comfortable with.

No matter what I or other people says.

Old habits, die hard.

Also, if you don't have any room for trying out something new, then you are stuck with the "old" solutions, until "everyone" have tried it.
That way, you will never try anything new.
Quite boring, but safe.

I like to try new things.

I have seen a few unexpected results, too.
But, not even I, have experienced any oil-related trouble, even though I have been driving more that 2 million kilometers, during the years.
Very often not had the best cars, either.
But, every car I have owned more than a year, have been better, engine wise, than when I got it.
In regards to performance and fuel consumption.

I guess I have been doing some things right, since this doesn't happen by itself.

 

[TurboJim]

Originally Posted By: c3po
Originally Posted By: TurboJim
Synlube and Tufoil both contain PTFE. Tufoil won the right to be called The Worlds Most Efficient Lubricant in the Guinness Book of World Records. That claim goes back to 1996. Has anyone taken that title away from them?

If PTFE wasn't working out for Synlube they would have removed it long ago.

I've never used Synlube but I have tried Tufoil. I could never tell when I had it in the oil and when I didn't. Others on this board had had better results with it.


I just had to go back and read this whole Teflon Thread and find out who brought up Synlube.

It's Turbo Jim, the same guy who said " This topic is supposed to be about Teflon".

Then jonny-b jumped in and the rest is history.


Yes....I guess this is all my fault. I thought at the time that Synlube contained PTFE. Ankhmaat points out that it is actually a variation of PTFE called Fluon.

I also didn't realize that Slick50 has eliminted PTFE from it's product.