..Is it worth it as 15 to 20cents more but better fuel milleage..??
Started using REAL gasoline with no corn in it..
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For 15 cents more I'd probably use it. The one station near me that carries 100% gas is usually .75 - 1.00 more per gallon. No way I'm paying that much for it.
Back when all the stations were switching over I went back and forth between the 2 types of gas and could barely tell a difference. Maybe 1 or 2 mpg but thats pretty close to my margin of error (temp, wind, traffic, etc.)
Try it out and see what you get.
Back when all the stations were switching over I went back and forth between the 2 types of gas and could barely tell a difference. Maybe 1 or 2 mpg but thats pretty close to my margin of error (temp, wind, traffic, etc.)
Try it out and see what you get.
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Originally Posted By: Artem
It all depends on how much better fuel economy. If you get 5mpg more, it will balance out the higher cost of fuel.
If you get an mpg or two... Might not be worth it in the end.
+1.
I tried using it for a few tanks when down in FL, but the premium it carried wasnt worth it as I didnt see a meaningful MPG increase.
It all depends on how much better fuel economy. If you get 5mpg more, it will balance out the higher cost of fuel.
If you get an mpg or two... Might not be worth it in the end.
+1.
I tried using it for a few tanks when down in FL, but the premium it carried wasnt worth it as I didnt see a meaningful MPG increase.
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Why would anyone want corn in their gasoline even if they make it into ethanol? Must be some idiot legislator.
It is an oxygenate used for better emissions. It has been used in CT for years before the current insane fascination with it as an alternate fuel.
Why would anyone want corn in their gasoline even if they make it into ethanol? Must be some idiot legislator.
It is an oxygenate used for better emissions. It has been used in CT for years before the current insane fascination with it as an alternate fuel.
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i use ethanol free conoco gas here in denver all year long now since there is no more mandate.they charge 15cents more/gal..i feel its well worth it!
Prabably 3 to 4 MPG increase in suburb driving...Ed
I have to use it in my riding mower anyway..someone says.
I have to use it in my riding mower anyway..someone says.
If I could only find it!
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Originally Posted By: jimbrewer
Approximate 1 mpg improvement doesn't quite make up for the extra cost. Better power and driveability, definitely make it worthwhile. Besides, it just seems wrong to put food in a gas tank.
It might, if you're driving something that gets low mileage to begin with. The lower your starting mileage, the larger the percentage increase 1mpg becomes.
So, the answer to all questions is usually, it depends...
Approximate 1 mpg improvement doesn't quite make up for the extra cost. Better power and driveability, definitely make it worthwhile. Besides, it just seems wrong to put food in a gas tank.
It might, if you're driving something that gets low mileage to begin with. The lower your starting mileage, the larger the percentage increase 1mpg becomes.
So, the answer to all questions is usually, it depends...
I have a gas station near where I work that sells 91 Ethanol Free ... mileage went down significantly. I think it was because I was running 91 in an engine that couldn't even imagine taking advantage of it.
I am going to try a station farther away that sells 87 ethanol free. Just for fun .. .the extra gas I use to get there and back would really negate any savings.
I am going to try a station farther away that sells 87 ethanol free. Just for fun .. .the extra gas I use to get there and back would really negate any savings.
Originally Posted By: EddieB
..Is it worth it as 15 to 20cents more but better fuel milleage..??
Aside from any MPG improvements, Its worth it simply to avoid potential damage ethanol can to do over time to a non flex-fuel vehicle.
..Is it worth it as 15 to 20cents more but better fuel milleage..??
Aside from any MPG improvements, Its worth it simply to avoid potential damage ethanol can to do over time to a non flex-fuel vehicle.
I'm not sure if it makes a difference in gas mileage, but my Jeep actually runs better on E10 than straight gas.
Modern vehicles will compensate properly for ethanol content. So, the MPG loss is very closely tied to loss of energy content. With 10% ethanol content resulting in roughly 3% MPG reduction.
I test ethanol content from time to time, using a test tube and titrating pipettes (as accurately as I can, which I will admit is not perfect) It is often around 5% here. But, I did recently get a batch with 10% ethanol, that much ethanol is rare.
So, a loss of 1.5% MPG is more normal around here.
Also, the non ethanol gas runs VERY well in outdoor power equipment. But, the ones I have, employ carburetors. BUT, it still may not have the energy content of real gasoline in the past.
Check out this table about gasoline energy content:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent
I test ethanol content from time to time, using a test tube and titrating pipettes (as accurately as I can, which I will admit is not perfect) It is often around 5% here. But, I did recently get a batch with 10% ethanol, that much ethanol is rare.
So, a loss of 1.5% MPG is more normal around here.
Also, the non ethanol gas runs VERY well in outdoor power equipment. But, the ones I have, employ carburetors. BUT, it still may not have the energy content of real gasoline in the past.
Check out this table about gasoline energy content:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent
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I would use E0 if it penciled out but the few stations that offer E0 gouge the H377 out of it.
JHZR2
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
Modern vehicles will compensate properly for ethanol content. So, the MPG loss is very closely tied to loss of energy content. With 10% ethanol content resulting in roughly 3% MPG reduction.
I test ethanol content from time to time, using a test tube and titrating pipettes (as accurately as I can, which I will admit is not perfect) It is often around 5% here. But, I did recently get a batch with 10% ethanol, that much ethanol is rare.
So, a loss of 1.5% MPG is more normal around here.
Also, the non ethanol gas runs VERY well in outdoor power equipment. But, the ones I have, employ carburetors. BUT, it still may not have the energy content of real gasoline in the past.
Check out this table about gasoline energy content:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent
Excellent, truth with fact instead of knee-jerk.
Modern vehicles will compensate properly for ethanol content. So, the MPG loss is very closely tied to loss of energy content. With 10% ethanol content resulting in roughly 3% MPG reduction.
I test ethanol content from time to time, using a test tube and titrating pipettes (as accurately as I can, which I will admit is not perfect) It is often around 5% here. But, I did recently get a batch with 10% ethanol, that much ethanol is rare.
So, a loss of 1.5% MPG is more normal around here.
Also, the non ethanol gas runs VERY well in outdoor power equipment. But, the ones I have, employ carburetors. BUT, it still may not have the energy content of real gasoline in the past.
Check out this table about gasoline energy content:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_gallon_equivalent
Excellent, truth with fact instead of knee-jerk.
Originally Posted By: jimbrewer
Approximate 1 mpg improvement doesn't quite make up for the extra cost. Better power and driveability, definitely make it worthwhile. Besides, it just seems wrong to put food in a gas tank.
Ethanol is not distiller from food grade corn,so your comment doesn't hold water and if that's the only reason you choose not to use fuel with ethanol well you should be able to sleep well at night knowing nobody went hungry because you drove to work today.
Back on topic,I use premium in all my vehicles because it contains no ethanol. Mileage is better by a minimum of 3 mpg in the dodge and I like the higher leves of detergent adds in the fuel.
Ethanol is not made from corn fit for human consumption,I really hoped people were beyond accepting that propaganda however apparently some minds have yet to absorb that info.
Approximate 1 mpg improvement doesn't quite make up for the extra cost. Better power and driveability, definitely make it worthwhile. Besides, it just seems wrong to put food in a gas tank.
Ethanol is not distiller from food grade corn,so your comment doesn't hold water and if that's the only reason you choose not to use fuel with ethanol well you should be able to sleep well at night knowing nobody went hungry because you drove to work today.
Back on topic,I use premium in all my vehicles because it contains no ethanol. Mileage is better by a minimum of 3 mpg in the dodge and I like the higher leves of detergent adds in the fuel.
Ethanol is not made from corn fit for human consumption,I really hoped people were beyond accepting that propaganda however apparently some minds have yet to absorb that info.
Originally Posted By: Clevy
I use premium in all my vehicles because it contains no ethanol.
Is this true?!? If so, I will be changing my car's diet to premium!
I use premium in all my vehicles because it contains no ethanol.
Is this true?!? If so, I will be changing my car's diet to premium!
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