Started using REAL gasoline with no corn in it..

[Cujet]

Originally Posted By: Clevy

I use premium in all my vehicles because it contains no ethanol. Mileage is better by a minimum of 3 mpg in the dodge and I like the higher leves of detergent adds in the fuel.


That is not the case here in Florida. I've found that 93 octane fuel is likely to have slightly more ethanol. Nor does it run any better in my lawn equipment.

I switched my lawn equipment to non ethanol fuels. Mostly due to the way it runs. I have a mower that won't idle at all with E-10 gas. Yet, runs like a champ on VP-C9 (96 octane storage fuel from VP race fuels) or 100LL Avgas, or the local 90 octane ethanol-free boat fuel. In order of quality of operation.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: babyivan
Originally Posted By: Clevy

I use premium in all my vehicles because it contains no ethanol.


Is this true?!? If so, I will be changing my car's diet to premium!


There is no guarantee that premium has no corn liquor in it. None at all.

As Cujet stated, here in sunny Florida all grades may be polluted. Just need a dab of stabilizer in the can every time you bring some home for your OPE and other portable stuff.

 

[simple_gifts]

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Ethanol is not distiller from food grade corn,so your comment doesn't hold water and if that's the only reason you choose not to use fuel with ethanol well you should be able to sleep well at night knowing nobody went hungry because you drove to work today.

Ethanol is not made from corn fit for human consumption,I really hoped people were beyond accepting that propaganda however apparently some minds have yet to absorb that info.


Perhap you can absorb if farmers choose to produce corn for ethanol production, instead of for human consumption, the net impact is the same, especially in the developing world.

 

[antiqueshell]

That corn may not be fit for human food, HOWEVER it IS used as feed for farm animals, that we eat for food.

 

[Scott_Tucker]

I just had the owner or ERC Racing Fuel in the SF bay area lecture in a class I teach on engines. His shop is very close to the refineries here so when he gets the plain old 91 delivered it's not a very long drive. Apparently when they fill the tanker trucks, they just dump 90% gasoline in the truck, then pull forward to the ethanol tank and top it off with the other 10%. He said he sampled the fuel going into his tanks while it was being filled the ethanol content varied widely. This means that they are simply relying on the sloshing in the tanker to mix the two.

 

[boxcartommie22]

+2 clevy, i only use premium in all my vehicles for years

 

[MrQuackers]

Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
That corn may not be fit for human food, HOWEVER it IS used as feed for farm animals, that we eat for food.


After the corn is processed to make ethanol, the mash is fed to farm animals.

 

[eljefino]

Originally Posted By: rslifkin
I'm not sure if it makes a difference in gas mileage, but my Jeep actually runs better on E10 than straight gas.


This is plausible as you release oxygen molecules burning it which is "more dense" than air which is 21% oxygen. So your peak HP will be up even as you pump more liquid fuel through things. I re-jetted my snowblower to run on E10 and it's very very nice now.

 

[Clevy]

Originally Posted By: babyivan
Originally Posted By: Clevy

I use premium in all my vehicles because it contains no ethanol.


Is this true?!? If so, I will be changing my car's diet to premium!


I can't say say if all regions are like here but here in Saskatchewan premium fuel has no ethanol in it.
Except for husky/Mohawk brand fuel. All grades contain ethanol from their pumps.
I don't know if its the same everywhere but here fuel stations have tanks for premium and regular. Mid-grade is mixed at the pump so it ends up being only 5% ethanol if the ratio is 50/50.
The odd time if I get stuck having to use regular almost immediately my mpg display drops and I lose at least 2mpg.
I drive primarily highway and very little cruising around the city. If I reset the mpg meter in the city it levels off at around 13-15mpg. Highway at 65 with cruise on it settles in at 19-21mpg and will go up or down depending on wind direction and speed.
So at 40 cents more per gallon based on those figures is premium more cost effective for me? If it gets 10% better fuel economy but costs 10% more I guess I'm at the break even point.
Premium costs 1.35 per liter here now,so around 4.40 a gallon.
Could someone smarter than me figure that out please.
Thanks

 

[rslifkin]

Originally Posted By: eljefino
Originally Posted By: rslifkin
I'm not sure if it makes a difference in gas mileage, but my Jeep actually runs better on E10 than straight gas.


This is plausible as you release oxygen molecules burning it which is "more dense" than air which is 21% oxygen. So your peak HP will be up even as you pump more liquid fuel through things. I re-jetted my snowblower to run on E10 and it's very very nice now.


Makes sense to me. I've tested it up to about E40 and it ran even better (and might have had a hair more power) with more ethanol, although the mpg did drop noticeably. I'd give straight E85 a shot, but somewhere around E65 - E70, I'd hit the computer's limit to adjust for it without a re-tune, and I'd also max out the injectors at WOT/high rpm around E75.

 

[artificialist]

My dad's 2007 Pontiac G6 2.4 takes a major performance penalty when E-10 is used. What really sucks is that the only way to get the real stuff is to go to a few select boating stores, fill up a gas can, and then put it in your car.

Now that dad is in Texas right now, he and his car are happier.

I didn't see any change in performance in my ION or Lancer Ralliart when switching from one to the other.