your doing a good thing for that poor jeep!! keep it up man no car deserves whats been done do it. i hope all goes well!!
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SLUDGE!!! Need some oil experts...
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Nice job documenting your work. MMO will start working fast. The oil should turn darker than normal after a few hundred miles.
Cut open those filters to keep track of your process.
This jeep was more than you bargained for...
Cut open those filters to keep track of your process.
This jeep was more than you bargained for...
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any chance of you tearing back apart after your flush process is done? i would love to see how well mmo works!!
maybe just the valvecover?
maybe just the valvecover?
Originally Posted By: Jason280
I filled it up with 4 quarts Pennzoil 5w30 and 1 quart of MMO.
Oh man i would have used a diesel HDEO you need all the cleaning power you can get from here on out!
keep pouring the MMO to her!
I filled it up with 4 quarts Pennzoil 5w30 and 1 quart of MMO.
Oh man i would have used a diesel HDEO you need all the cleaning power you can get from here on out!
keep pouring the MMO to her!
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This jeep was more than you bargained for...
In a sense, it is. But, then again, I'd planned on it being a project for me over the next few months (I just didn't plan on doing much to the engine). I knew it needed some TLC when I bought it, just had no idea the internals were that gunked up.
This jeep was more than you bargained for...
In a sense, it is. But, then again, I'd planned on it being a project for me over the next few months (I just didn't plan on doing much to the engine). I knew it needed some TLC when I bought it, just had no idea the internals were that gunked up.
1500 mile oci's with pyb and mmo, about three times.
I'm getting to this thread a little late. The 2.5L in my trail Jeep is clean as a whistle.
You can remove the rockers and pushrods for cleaning and put them back without worrying about adjusting lash (non-adj).
Just keep doing what your doing. The 2.5L is a tough little engine and if it ran well the way it was, then it will be that much better after your effort.
Oh, that reminds me, Felpro makes a One piece oil pan gasket. It's rubberized with the steel non-crush grommets. It's worth the little bit of $ over the cork and much easier to install. Also: might as well replace the oil pump with a Melling while you're there.
You can remove the rockers and pushrods for cleaning and put them back without worrying about adjusting lash (non-adj).
Just keep doing what your doing. The 2.5L is a tough little engine and if it ran well the way it was, then it will be that much better after your effort.
Oh, that reminds me, Felpro makes a One piece oil pan gasket. It's rubberized with the steel non-crush grommets. It's worth the little bit of $ over the cork and much easier to install. Also: might as well replace the oil pump with a Melling while you're there.
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any chance of you tearing back apart after your flush process is done? i would love to see how well mmo works!!
maybe just the valvecover?
I'll probably at least pull the valve cover, otherwise I won't know how much progress I'm making. I'll likely wait until after a couple of cycles of oil changes, so it may take a while.
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Also: might as well replace the oil pump with a Melling while you're there.
This actually crossed my mind, especially since I had the pan dropped. Any ideas on what the Melling sells for?
any chance of you tearing back apart after your flush process is done? i would love to see how well mmo works!!
maybe just the valvecover?
I'll probably at least pull the valve cover, otherwise I won't know how much progress I'm making. I'll likely wait until after a couple of cycles of oil changes, so it may take a while.
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Also: might as well replace the oil pump with a Melling while you're there.
This actually crossed my mind, especially since I had the pan dropped. Any ideas on what the Melling sells for?
Depending on where you go, they range from $50 - $80.
Having worked on many a Jeep, it's been my experience that the life expectancy of the factory oil pump averages about 150K miles. That puts you right there. They're easy to change and cheap insurance. I'm currently building a 4.0L for my daughter's XJ and will replace the pump with a Melling.
Had a buddy with lifter tick in his XJ Wagoneer (he HATES when I call it a Cherokee). The motor had about 180K when we changed the oil pan gasket. I did the pump at the same time, and the lifter tick is gone.
Having worked on many a Jeep, it's been my experience that the life expectancy of the factory oil pump averages about 150K miles. That puts you right there. They're easy to change and cheap insurance. I'm currently building a 4.0L for my daughter's XJ and will replace the pump with a Melling.
Had a buddy with lifter tick in his XJ Wagoneer (he HATES when I call it a Cherokee). The motor had about 180K when we changed the oil pan gasket. I did the pump at the same time, and the lifter tick is gone.
All that sludge and it didn't drive like there was a boat anchor or grand piano chained to the back bumper being pulled along and throwing sparks... have the claims of a TV commercial been disproved here?
Originally Posted By: hardcore302
1500 mile oci's with pyb and mmo, about three times.
I wouldn't go that far on the first OCI, maybe 500 miles for the first one and inspect the oil filter to determine the second OCI.
Jason, you're well on your way to cleaning up this engine, good on you. Looking forward to the "after" pics
1500 mile oci's with pyb and mmo, about three times.
I wouldn't go that far on the first OCI, maybe 500 miles for the first one and inspect the oil filter to determine the second OCI.
Jason, you're well on your way to cleaning up this engine, good on you. Looking forward to the "after" pics
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: Jason280
I filled it up with 4 quarts Pennzoil 5w30 and 1 quart of MMO.
Oh man i would have used a diesel HDEO you need all the cleaning power you can get from here on out!
keep pouring the MMO to her!
+1 to this.
I'd be looking for Chevron Delo or Rotella sales.
Originally Posted By: Jason280
I filled it up with 4 quarts Pennzoil 5w30 and 1 quart of MMO.
Oh man i would have used a diesel HDEO you need all the cleaning power you can get from here on out!
keep pouring the MMO to her!
+1 to this.
I'd be looking for Chevron Delo or Rotella sales.
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I went ahead and replaced the thermostat and gasket, and put everything back together. I filled it up with 4 quarts Pennzoil 5w30 and 1 quart of MMO. It has a nice fresh Purolater Gold filter in place, and I drove it around for around 25 miles today. It actually runs and sounds the same, with no discernible difference. I watched the oil pressure gauge, and it stayed at its normal 30-80 (depending on throttle position). The temp gauge also stayed normal, but I honestly didn't expect any real change there.
Its going to take some effort, but I'm going to do my best to drive it as much as possible. Anyone who owns an older Jeep knows these things are short on creature comforts, especially when you are accustomed to driving newer vehicles. I do know it has a small exhaust leak on the top of the pipe, but I am not sure I can get to it with my MIG welder to fix. Guess I'll check on some temporary solutions tomorrow, but it needs to be plugged. Its simply too loud as it is!
Honestly, I would give up my car for my Jeep if it was still in the family. That was my favorite ride out of all of them. It was rugged, reliable and never gave me issues. The internals were probably far worse off than what you have going on now but it would crank instantly. It sat for years as our emergency vehicle and after 2 years of non-use I needed it in the winter. 2 years of no starting, and god knows how the oil was at the time(shared between my brother and I). Started up in the dead of winter and that Jeep 4.0L cold howl like a wolf was beautiful
. 14 years 225k miles and the rust was killing it. Engine and Trans all original =)
God I wish I still had it
It was easy peesy to work on much like my Xterra was and far more fun to drive =)
I went ahead and replaced the thermostat and gasket, and put everything back together. I filled it up with 4 quarts Pennzoil 5w30 and 1 quart of MMO. It has a nice fresh Purolater Gold filter in place, and I drove it around for around 25 miles today. It actually runs and sounds the same, with no discernible difference. I watched the oil pressure gauge, and it stayed at its normal 30-80 (depending on throttle position). The temp gauge also stayed normal, but I honestly didn't expect any real change there.
Its going to take some effort, but I'm going to do my best to drive it as much as possible. Anyone who owns an older Jeep knows these things are short on creature comforts, especially when you are accustomed to driving newer vehicles. I do know it has a small exhaust leak on the top of the pipe, but I am not sure I can get to it with my MIG welder to fix. Guess I'll check on some temporary solutions tomorrow, but it needs to be plugged. Its simply too loud as it is!
Honestly, I would give up my car for my Jeep if it was still in the family. That was my favorite ride out of all of them. It was rugged, reliable and never gave me issues. The internals were probably far worse off than what you have going on now but it would crank instantly. It sat for years as our emergency vehicle and after 2 years of non-use I needed it in the winter. 2 years of no starting, and god knows how the oil was at the time(shared between my brother and I). Started up in the dead of winter and that Jeep 4.0L cold howl like a wolf was beautiful
God I wish I still had it
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This will forever be one of those classic real life rebirth of an engine moment, will give all of us food for thought on oci's and what really happens when we dont change our oil or use the correct oil for that matter.
Isnt that the Iron Duke motor?? And the same motor they used in Chevy Celeberty`s,Grand-Am`s etc?
Originally Posted By: lexus114
Isnt that the Iron Duke motor?? And the same motor they used in Chevy Celeberty`s,Grand-Am`s etc?
No that's not a 2.5l ID GM...
Isnt that the Iron Duke motor?? And the same motor they used in Chevy Celeberty`s,Grand-Am`s etc?
No that's not a 2.5l ID GM...
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: lexus114
Isnt that the Iron Duke motor?? And the same motor they used in Chevy Celeberty`s,Grand-Am`s etc?
No that's not a 2.5l ID GM...
Thanks "D"
Originally Posted By: lexus114
Isnt that the Iron Duke motor?? And the same motor they used in Chevy Celeberty`s,Grand-Am`s etc?
No that's not a 2.5l ID GM...
Thanks "D"
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