Semis - they've completely taken over the highways

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Originally Posted By: 97f150

Funny you think a law should be made though. I just come from another thread you were involved in where you were speaking of how ridiculous it is that certain tire shops are protecting their interests by not installing tires that differ from the manufacturers spec., then come in General and post about how laws about trucks passing other trucks and using cell phones while driving should be in place. If I didn't know any better I would think that you tend to only agree with laws and practices that benefit you, and want to infringe on anything someone else may do that bothers you.


LOL I am reminded of his thread about cars with fog lamps...
 
Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: 97f150

Funny you think a law should be made though. I just come from another thread you were involved in where you were speaking of how ridiculous it is that certain tire shops are protecting their interests by not installing tires that differ from the manufacturers spec., then come in General and post about how laws about trucks passing other trucks and using cell phones while driving should be in place. If I didn't know any better I would think that you tend to only agree with laws and practices that benefit you, and want to infringe on anything someone else may do that bothers you.


LOL I am reminded of his thread about cars with fog lamps...


...and I suppose you enjoy those things glaring in your eyes?
 
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: cjcride
Notice it up here too. The economy is firing on all cylinders again.


Be careful with the political talk here. Not allowed.
No political intent, sorry if anyone saw it that way.
 
Originally Posted By: cjcride
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: cjcride
Notice it up here too. The economy is firing on all cylinders again.


Be careful with the political talk here. Not allowed.
No political intent, sorry if anyone saw it that way.


I didn't see it as a political statement at all...
 
Letttuce does go by rail and then trucked to the distribution center and trucked again to the grocer.......

What I was trying to say is rail is not the answer that everyone thinks it is....no matter what you purchase, it is probably going to be transported via truck somewhere along the way.

Hills should be outlawed not slow trucks.
 
Those abandoned rights-of-way could come back, but most likely only with government help. The US would much rather continue to expand already crowded interstate highways, which then plug up again in short order, rather than expand the rail network. It is obvious in many cities in the US that building more roads simply isn't the answer. We insist that commuter rail pay its own way, even though it doesn't make a profit in European and Asian countries, but those countries build it because it helps alleviate highway congestion.

It seems like everywhere that railroads try to expand, the old "Not In My Backyard" syndrome flares up. Everyone wants something done about semis and highway congestion, but it has to be done in someone else's neighborhood. The truth is, despite high profile cases shown in the news, rail is and continues to be the safest way to transport hazardous materials and other freight. Until we as a country decide that change needs to happen, out highways will continue to be jammed with trucks.
 
worse than fog lights are the clowns with the 6000k HIDs retofitted with halogen base and put into reflector housings..
They cant see.. and they blind everyone else with the giant light scatter.
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: 97f150

Funny you think a law should be made though. I just come from another thread you were involved in where you were speaking of how ridiculous it is that certain tire shops are protecting their interests by not installing tires that differ from the manufacturers spec., then come in General and post about how laws about trucks passing other trucks and using cell phones while driving should be in place. If I didn't know any better I would think that you tend to only agree with laws and practices that benefit you, and want to infringe on anything someone else may do that bothers you.


LOL I am reminded of his thread about cars with fog lamps...


...and I suppose you enjoy those things glaring in your eyes?
 
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
the difference between a car taking forever to pass someone and a truck taking forever is that the the truck always gets back in the right lane when finished passing. typically the bums driving cars like this never move over after slowly passing


I see that a LOT!
 
Originally Posted By: Fleetmon
Letttuce does go by rail and then trucked to the distribution center and trucked again to the grocer.......

What I was trying to say is rail is not the answer that everyone thinks it is....no matter what you purchase, it is probably going to be transported via truck somewhere along the way.

Hills should be outlawed not slow trucks.


OK, that's in-line with my view on how OTR trucks SHOULD be used, which somebody else in this thread mentioned as well. Rail leveraged for long-haul stuff, whilst OTR trucks would be used to distribute from relatively local distribution centres.

I think that would result in a great decrease in truck traffic on major highways and alleviate congestion. It would also mean less wear and tear on the interstates, 401....etc and would theoretically cost less due to the lower operating costs of rail.

IMHO of course.
 
One tip that I always do is I don't change lanes until I see the Semi's tires, entire cabin and the top portion in the rear view mirror.
 
Originally Posted By: Fleetmon
Letttuce does go by rail and then trucked to the distribution center and trucked again to the grocer.......

What I was trying to say is rail is not the answer that everyone thinks it is....no matter what you purchase, it is probably going to be transported via truck somewhere along the way.

Hills should be outlawed not slow trucks.


Yes, but if long haul cargo was shipped via rail instead of semi, that would take A LOT of trucks off the roads...
 
Originally Posted By: 285south
One tip that I always do is I don't change lanes until I see the Semi's tires, entire cabin and the top portion in the rear view mirror.


That was how I was taught for passing in general. Don't pull in until you see the front tires in the rear view mirror.
 
Trucks are usually not a problem around here, the average idiot driving is so bad they seem like real professionals!
 
The big trucks on my commute can be a real pain (and dangerous) to share the road with. Many text and use cell phones while driving....as they swerve over the lane boundaries. They cut law abiding folks off just in order to try to get ahead....as though they are driving a small car. It seems like in the past, truckers used to be considered very safe drivers (for the most part). They were careful and courteous. But....that was thirty years ago! Today? Not so much. But in truth, many car drivers are just as bad....but for obvious reasons seeing a truck driver behave this way really makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.
I've driven in many parts of the country. The area the OP mentioned is indeed one of the absolutely worse areas for truck traffic. Extremely dangerous. It needs more police patrols to make these jerks abide by the law. But....it will never happen.
 
A lot of semis on the road is a sign of a working economy.

Semi drivers. Bus drivers. Passenger cars. Etc. They are all dangers on the road. Just keep an eye out. Flying is an option too.
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Originally Posted By: dlundblad
A lot of semis on the road is a sign of a working economy.

Semi drivers. Bus drivers. Passenger cars. Etc. They are all dangers on the road. Just keep an eye out. Flying is an option too.
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An economy means nothing if you are dead or seriously injured.
 
Originally Posted By: loyd
This problem has a solution! Revitalize the rail system and require ALL interstate shipments be moved by rail. Only allow trucks to be used for intrastate and local delivery, and limit them to gasoline rigs only. Save the diesel for railroad and farm use. A diesel/electric locomotive can haul as much as a hundred trucks on the fuel of fifty trucks. This will make the diesel fuel go further and reduce particulate pollution at the same time!


This is ridiculous in oh so many ways that I truly do not know where to start...
 
Originally Posted By: nitehawk55
If you have ever travelled on the 401 through Ontario you'll see a lot of trucks .

I was watching a show the other day where they said they couldn't get enough drivers so they were getting fellows from Jamaica to drive ! Scarey to think they do not have any winter driving experience !!


How would that be any different than a dude from Miami getting his first run to, say...Denver or Minneapolis?
 
Originally Posted By: Fleetmon
You can place some of the blame for the lack of railroad freight options on the work hour rules and the "not in my neighborhood" folks that don't like/want rail traffic near them.

I'd like to see proof where Swift and Werner trucks are governed at 60MPH....let me see a company policy that mandates that speed.


May not be governed, but the drivers could be told to run 60. (Shaws did this a while ago, not sure if they still do.) Many fleets (along with the vast majority of rentals) are governed to 65...off the top of my head, Schneider and CR England trucks are governed to 65. (CRE lease-op trucks will run 70.) Werner trucks were, according to the ex-Werner guys I work with. Some trucks will run 65+, but the cruise control will not hold above 60. (Had one of those at work, and THAT was annoying!)

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Since trucks are the perceived problem let's just leave the underpowered RV'ers alone. A particular danger are the ones that rent a rig.....not even mentioning the ones that rent a huge rig and then attempt to tow a toad behind them. I-83 is full of vacationers every summer, most of whom could NEVER pass a commercial license test yet are still allowed to rent these monsters.


Even the slowest motorhome has a weight-power ratio that is orders of magnitude better than an OTR truck! Also note: the vast majority of motorhomes (and every rental MH I have ever seen) is below the CDL weight cutoff; most are WAY below the cutoff, by more than 10,000lbs.

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I'm sure the whiners will eventually get their way and truck traffic will be reduced so we can then complain about $10 lettuce and $8 per-gallon-milk but hey - at least the roads won't be clogged huh?

Mexican truckers aren't the only polluters.....how about the ones that purchase older rigs to avoid new diesel technology or the ones that re-power units to avoid new technology? How may whiners in here have remote starters on their cars so their (or their wives/girlfriends/kids/etc) butts don't get cold in the winter? How many burn cord after cord of wood every winter?


Many drivers prefer older engines for simple reasons: they are more reliable, cheaper to run, and burn less fuel! (We have many emission diesels at work and they ALL suck rocks.) I do not use a remote starter and have no interest in one.

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I apologize for getting off-topic but trucks and their speed are not the biggest problem you'll face in life. I for one don't worry as much about truckers as I do the ones yakking/texting on their phones, the one who have to be infront of everyone, the "it's MY world crowd", and the one's that just strive to make everyone else around them miserable.

If you want the luxury of groceries and other goods available at YOUR leisure, start tolerating fellow motorists including truckers or stay off of the highways. If you have a hard time tolerating slower traffic then I would imagine your fellow motorists would all be better off if you simply stayed at home!


Err...have you considered switching to decaf?
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