Royal Purple??
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Is the colour of RP from dye or proprietary additives?
wemay
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Proprietary dye.
I think I'll pick up some purple food coloring the next time I'm at Walmart buying SuperTech synthetic.
Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: Justin251
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: wemay
I got your sarcasm Garak. Don't question yourself throughout the day.
Oh well, he's built too low to the ground! I keep pitching 'em, he keeps missing 'em.
Justin251: As I've said many times, if RP was available at $34.99 a jug on our Walmart shelves every day of the week, they wouldn't be able to keep it in stock.
My app says $37.78 now.
And M1 is $26.97 or $28.97 for EP. Castrol Edge is on rollback for ~$23.
That's why I'm running Edge right now. I couldn't beat the price for a full name brand synthetic.
Originally Posted By: Justin251
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: wemay
I got your sarcasm Garak. Don't question yourself throughout the day.
Oh well, he's built too low to the ground! I keep pitching 'em, he keeps missing 'em.
Justin251: As I've said many times, if RP was available at $34.99 a jug on our Walmart shelves every day of the week, they wouldn't be able to keep it in stock.
My app says $37.78 now.
And M1 is $26.97 or $28.97 for EP. Castrol Edge is on rollback for ~$23.
That's why I'm running Edge right now. I couldn't beat the price for a full name brand synthetic.
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Or even cooler,if someone could make an oil called Tie Dye Synthcolour. It pours out psychedelic multi colored. The more it runs and mixes in your engine,the more kaliedoscopic it gets!!
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
There is no connection. People compare the limited data on PQIA and the two appear similar. That is where the similarities end though.
As you can see, more people here are more concerned about a color than the actual performance. Why is that? Simple. Color is subjective. You can like it or not and no one can prove you wrong. Performance is objective. It can be proven (as it already has) that RP outperforms the competition and that upsets the Amsoil/boutique oil/if it isn't made by the big 4 it is junk crowd.
As you can see, more people here are more concerned about a color than the actual performance. Why is that? Simple. Color is subjective. You can like it or not and no one can prove you wrong. Performance is objective. It can be proven (as it already has) that RP outperforms the competition and that upsets the Amsoil/boutique oil/if it isn't made by the big 4 it is junk crowd.
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Originally Posted By: Astro_Guy
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
Those that do, continue to point to VOAs showing both are Sodium based. Disregarding the fact that VOA only divulge some of what a formulation consists of.
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
Those that do, continue to point to VOAs showing both are Sodium based. Disregarding the fact that VOA only divulge some of what a formulation consists of.
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Originally Posted By: Astro_Guy
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
Basically the API-approved line of Royal Purple looks like (via VOA) Valvoline Synpower. The theory is that they simply buy the same pre-approved additive package that Ashland is using (probably from Lubrizol, Infinium....etc) for these products since it would be cheaper than developing and getting their own approved.
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
Basically the API-approved line of Royal Purple looks like (via VOA) Valvoline Synpower. The theory is that they simply buy the same pre-approved additive package that Ashland is using (probably from Lubrizol, Infinium....etc) for these products since it would be cheaper than developing and getting their own approved.
stchman said:
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Astro_Guy
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
Basically the API-approved line of Royal Purple looks like (via VOA) Valvoline Synpower. The theory is that they simply buy the same pre-approved additive package that Ashland is using (probably from Lubrizol, Infinium....etc) for these products since it would be cheaper than developing and getting their own approved.
Ashland used to own the company that supplied the chemicals for the paper machine I work on.
I don't see why they'd have to buy it. I'd figure they would be the supplier.
Originally Posted By: Astro_Guy
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
Basically the API-approved line of Royal Purple looks like (via VOA) Valvoline Synpower. The theory is that they simply buy the same pre-approved additive package that Ashland is using (probably from Lubrizol, Infinium....etc) for these products since it would be cheaper than developing and getting their own approved.
Ashland used to own the company that supplied the chemicals for the paper machine I work on.
I don't see why they'd have to buy it. I'd figure they would be the supplier.
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Originally Posted By: Justin251
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Astro_Guy
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
Basically the API-approved line of Royal Purple looks like (via VOA) Valvoline Synpower. The theory is that they simply buy the same pre-approved additive package that Ashland is using (probably from Lubrizol, Infinium....etc) for these products since it would be cheaper than developing and getting their own approved.
Ashland used to own the company that supplied the chemicals for the paper machine I work on.
I don't see why they'd have to buy it. I'd figure they would be the supplier.
There are only a few major additive suppliers and I don't believe Ashland is one of or owns any of them
Infineum is the joint-venture between XOM/Shell. But XOM owns XOM Chemical as well.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: Astro_Guy
Can someone fill me in on the alleged connection between Valvoline (Ashland) and Royal Purple (Calumet)?
Basically the API-approved line of Royal Purple looks like (via VOA) Valvoline Synpower. The theory is that they simply buy the same pre-approved additive package that Ashland is using (probably from Lubrizol, Infinium....etc) for these products since it would be cheaper than developing and getting their own approved.
Ashland used to own the company that supplied the chemicals for the paper machine I work on.
I don't see why they'd have to buy it. I'd figure they would be the supplier.
There are only a few major additive suppliers and I don't believe Ashland is one of or owns any of them
Infineum is the joint-venture between XOM/Shell. But XOM owns XOM Chemical as well.
Ashland is a blender and a chemical company. They aren't and oil company. Valvoline has partnered with Lubrizol for several years now.
Lubrizol is one of the largest suppliers of motor oil additives. Valvoline is a division of Ashland which blends motor oils from high quality basestocks and additives.
Comparing RP API to Synpower isn't exactly a put down for RP. Valvoline and Lubrizol have received awards from the SAE for their combined efforts in developing "hyper ZDDP".
IMO Ashland is a top notch blender, and the are cutting edge. They have been blending motor oils for 140+ years so they know what they are doing.
I'm not saying RP API is rebranded purple Synpower, however if it were then RP wouldn't have chosen a bad formula to purchase from a quality standpoint.
RP just like Ashland is also a blender and not an oil company. The Non API RP oils are the good oils, and they are priced fair for the amount of additives you receive in them.
HPS is the good stuff. See the VOA I did here;
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3815036/RP_HPS_5w30_VOA#Post3815036
Lubrizol is one of the largest suppliers of motor oil additives. Valvoline is a division of Ashland which blends motor oils from high quality basestocks and additives.
Comparing RP API to Synpower isn't exactly a put down for RP. Valvoline and Lubrizol have received awards from the SAE for their combined efforts in developing "hyper ZDDP".
IMO Ashland is a top notch blender, and the are cutting edge. They have been blending motor oils for 140+ years so they know what they are doing.
I'm not saying RP API is rebranded purple Synpower, however if it were then RP wouldn't have chosen a bad formula to purchase from a quality standpoint.
RP just like Ashland is also a blender and not an oil company. The Non API RP oils are the good oils, and they are priced fair for the amount of additives you receive in them.
HPS is the good stuff. See the VOA I did here;
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3815036/RP_HPS_5w30_VOA#Post3815036
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HAHA judging from your VOA ....what really drives up the price of RP is the aluminium and iron they put in their bottles.....
Originally Posted By: ExMachina
Another example: Red Bull has GREAT sponsorships in racing & sports, really the coolest (air races, rally-cross, etc.), and they now have me almost convinced their Red Bull products don't taste like sweat. But they do, and there's no denying it, the worst....
What is your favorite caffeinated beverage?
Originally Posted By: jk_636
What about redline? If you want a true gimmick oil, go for redline. My two cents, YMMV.
Is it expensive? Price is relativ
Gimmick oil is Amsoil with their super lame 4 ball bearing test and those better than pert plus shampoo oil test in OMG -20 degrees
Another example: Red Bull has GREAT sponsorships in racing & sports, really the coolest (air races, rally-cross, etc.), and they now have me almost convinced their Red Bull products don't taste like sweat. But they do, and there's no denying it, the worst....
What is your favorite caffeinated beverage?
Originally Posted By: jk_636
What about redline? If you want a true gimmick oil, go for redline. My two cents, YMMV.
Is it expensive? Price is relativ
Gimmick oil is Amsoil with their super lame 4 ball bearing test and those better than pert plus shampoo oil test in OMG -20 degrees
If it is somehow rebranded Synpower, which seems like a massive oversimplification to me, it's rebranded Synpower with a 12,000 mile warranty. So, if it's rebranded Synpower, it seems to me that RP has more faith in Synpower than Valvoline does.
Originally Posted By: Garak
If it is somehow rebranded Synpower, which seems like a massive oversimplification to me, it's rebranded Synpower with a 12,000 mile warranty. So, if it's rebranded Synpower, it seems to me that RP has more faith in Synpower than Valvoline does.
Or the same add pack as synpower but with mobil basestocks.
If it is somehow rebranded Synpower, which seems like a massive oversimplification to me, it's rebranded Synpower with a 12,000 mile warranty. So, if it's rebranded Synpower, it seems to me that RP has more faith in Synpower than Valvoline does.
Or the same add pack as synpower but with mobil basestocks.
Originally Posted By: donnyj08
Ashland is a blender and a chemical company. They aren't and oil company. Valvoline has partnered with Lubrizol for several years now.
Lubrizol is one of the largest suppliers of motor oil additives. Valvoline is a division of Ashland which blends motor oils from high quality basestocks and additives.
Comparing RP API to Synpower isn't exactly a put down for RP. Valvoline and Lubrizol have received awards from the SAE for their combined efforts in developing "hyper ZDDP".
IMO Ashland is a top notch blender, and the are cutting edge. They have been blending motor oils for 140+ years so they know what they are doing.
I'm not saying RP API is rebranded purple Synpower, however if it were then RP wouldn't have chosen a bad formula to purchase from a quality standpoint.
RP just like Ashland is also a blender and not an oil company. The Non API RP oils are the good oils, and they are priced fair for the amount of additives you receive in them.
HPS is the good stuff. See the VOA I did here;
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3815036/RP_HPS_5w30_VOA#Post3815036
I hadn't thought of that. Then who does Valvoline get their basestocks from?
I'm starting to think addpack is more important than basestocks. But that's probably wrong too. lol
Ashland is a blender and a chemical company. They aren't and oil company. Valvoline has partnered with Lubrizol for several years now.
Lubrizol is one of the largest suppliers of motor oil additives. Valvoline is a division of Ashland which blends motor oils from high quality basestocks and additives.
Comparing RP API to Synpower isn't exactly a put down for RP. Valvoline and Lubrizol have received awards from the SAE for their combined efforts in developing "hyper ZDDP".
IMO Ashland is a top notch blender, and the are cutting edge. They have been blending motor oils for 140+ years so they know what they are doing.
I'm not saying RP API is rebranded purple Synpower, however if it were then RP wouldn't have chosen a bad formula to purchase from a quality standpoint.
RP just like Ashland is also a blender and not an oil company. The Non API RP oils are the good oils, and they are priced fair for the amount of additives you receive in them.
HPS is the good stuff. See the VOA I did here;
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3815036/RP_HPS_5w30_VOA#Post3815036
I hadn't thought of that. Then who does Valvoline get their basestocks from?
I'm starting to think addpack is more important than basestocks. But that's probably wrong too. lol
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