the grill actually looks good in person
russian youtubers were making fun of the thing for a whole year straight but when i saw it in the street my opinion instantly changed
REUTERS: EU fines Volkswagen, BMW $1 bln for emissions cartel (Daimler gets off fine after blowing whistle on cartel)
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russian youtubers were making fun of the thing for a whole year straight but when i saw it in the street my opinion instantly changed
Complete BS from Brussels./cloudfront-us-east-2.images.arcpublishing.com/reuters/EXG5Q5KJ5FOULARD76TT7BN4ZA.jpg)
EU fines Volkswagen, BMW $1 bln for emissions cartel
The European Commission fined German carmakers Volkswagen and BMW a total of 875 million euros ($1 billion) on Thursday for colluding to curb the use of emissions cleaning technology they had developed.www.reuters.com
"Under a settlement, Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) will pay a fine of 502 million euros and BMW (BMWG.DE) 373 million euros. Daimler, also part of the cartel, was not fined after revealing its existence."
I wonder which (if any) companies are worried on this side of the pond and in ASIA for like "collusion".
IMO it could be a best described as garish " obtrusively bright and showy; lurid."
I mean it really isn't THAT bad but it looks like that car should be able to smell good wienerschnitzel and sauerkraut from five miles away.
This sets quite a precedent, I wonder if Honda is going to be fined for making their oil filter access less convenient on my old Honda?
Ya so here's the deal a nutshell. The EU body is claiming that because these three automakers agreed to an equipment standard for an emissions component they in effect agreed to only meet the emissions maximum as required by law rather than compete to produce vehicles were offered levels of emissions which might have been better than the legal maximum. It's complete horse#%#! but of course nobody in Brussels who rendered this decision has a clue as to what it takes to operate a company at a profit by providing a good/service which customers willingly buy.
uhm, i hope there was some sarcasm in that..
The EU politicians are pi$$ed that their make-believe, imagined, "new clean technologies" are not coming "faster to market".
That's like a farmer being upset that his pigs won't fly even after he decreed it so.
On teh other hand those manufacturers lied that they can do it and, when they couldn't, they faked the emissions. In detriment of all the Asian and US companies that, being honest, couldn't make those emissions work.
That's like a farmer being upset that his pigs won't fly even after he decreed it so.
On teh other hand those manufacturers lied that they can do it and, when they couldn't, they faked the emissions. In detriment of all the Asian and US companies that, being honest, couldn't make those emissions work.
But not in this case. One billion dollars in fines for making something supposedly less convenient.
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It is true, have you ever seen a volkswagen burn even a drop of oil in an engine with over 400,000 miles? My 2.5 didn't.
i´ve seen enough skoda or others from vag,smoking like 2stroke when cold.
(however manufacturer manual says 1L/1000km is "normal", i guess i can´t officially put a complaint)
(however manufacturer manual says 1L/1000km is "normal", i guess i can´t officially put a complaint)
It's entirely possible. The DEF tanks could not be refilled like you would a washer fluid reservoir. They instead required a Kruse adapter which at the time was only sold by one entity in Europe and in the US was only available at the dealer. In the US it was a big deal because it made refilling and stock piling DEF a PITA
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Mhm. I'm still choking a bit on the $1B penalty, but maybe that's just me.
Telling them they have to give the adapter away for free seems like an equitable solution but again, maybe that's just me.
Ya, it was a secondary issue. The fine is for conspiracy to just meet emissions.
They formed a cartel to not compete with each other to have the lowest emissions, even though that is a feature that some consumers shop for. The idea that the buying public would directly demand low emissions not just the bogieman government, would be dangerous.
As a parallel strategy they agreed to build their DEF systems in a way designed to generate consumer resentment for DEF. They agreed to make the DEF tank small, requiring more frequent refilling, while also making it difficult to refill. Public rejection of DEF technology as inconvenient would lead to pressure on the government to lighten emissions rules.
As a parallel strategy they agreed to build their DEF systems in a way designed to generate consumer resentment for DEF. They agreed to make the DEF tank small, requiring more frequent refilling, while also making it difficult to refill. Public rejection of DEF technology as inconvenient would lead to pressure on the government to lighten emissions rules.
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The industry is way over regulated. Kudo's to them for fighting back and thumbs down to government for proceeding in this way yet again.
Consumers already have so much forced on them they don't want it's ridiculous. I was reminded of this last night as I wrestled with and spilled gas all over trying to use the gas can Lucifer designed to save the planet.
Largely despised stop/start would not even exist without insane government pressure on auto manufacturers.
Consumers already have so much forced on them they don't want it's ridiculous. I was reminded of this last night as I wrestled with and spilled gas all over trying to use the gas can Lucifer designed to save the planet.
Largely despised stop/start would not even exist without insane government pressure on auto manufacturers.
Unfortunately the costs are just passed on to the consumers in the form of cheaper quality vehicles and expensive emissions systems.
The DEF tanks being “small” isn’t why people hate it, it’s the fact the systems are finicky and incredibly expensive to fix.
I hate those stupid cans. The good news is they pull apart very very easily and a carefully drilled vent hole transforms them back into the gas cans we know and love.
Also part of the plan. Ordinarily the car with a better system would sell more. But here the manufacturers conspired not to build a better system on purpose.
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