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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Over breeding and muddy bloodlines helps create an unpredictable animal. Combined with bad owners is a recipe for disaster. Clean lines,a good owner and healthy can equal an excellent dog.
I think the purebreds/inbreds are the problem, they are the only dogs of any breed I've had trouble with. The good old mutt has always been the best family dogs. Mutts like us humans.
We've had fantastic luck with purebred Newfoundland dogs. My daughter has done everything imaginable to PO our newf and the most he does is make a frustrated sound and walk away from her.
Mind you, our neighbour at our cottage has an absolutely psychotic golden retriever. So it is certainly possible to get a nutter out of a breed that is generally regarded as being pretty gentle too
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Over breeding and muddy bloodlines helps create an unpredictable animal. Combined with bad owners is a recipe for disaster. Clean lines,a good owner and healthy can equal an excellent dog.
I think the purebreds/inbreds are the problem, they are the only dogs of any breed I've had trouble with. The good old mutt has always been the best family dogs. Mutts like us humans.
We've had fantastic luck with purebred Newfoundland dogs. My daughter has done everything imaginable to PO our newf and the most he does is make a frustrated sound and walk away from her.
Mind you, our neighbour at our cottage has an absolutely psychotic golden retriever. So it is certainly possible to get a nutter out of a breed that is generally regarded as being pretty gentle too
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Originally Posted By: yonyon
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
It isn't just about how you train them or the owners, the pit bull is a VERY strong dog, and if and when even the supposedly gentle one has a bad day it's jaw design is far more dangerous than most other breeds.
How is the strength of pits relevant? While these dogs are usually strong for a medium-sized breed, does this strength make them inherently more dangerous than an even stronger (but less feared) large breed dog that has greater potential power to attack with?
That's a good point. Dogs like a Newf or a Mastiff are much larger and can be potentially more dangerous. My grandfather's last newf weighed in at 225lbs. He was a big boy and we only saw what that kind of mass meant a few times, one of which involved an un-neutered black lab that he whipped around like a squirrel.
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
It isn't just about how you train them or the owners, the pit bull is a VERY strong dog, and if and when even the supposedly gentle one has a bad day it's jaw design is far more dangerous than most other breeds.
How is the strength of pits relevant? While these dogs are usually strong for a medium-sized breed, does this strength make them inherently more dangerous than an even stronger (but less feared) large breed dog that has greater potential power to attack with?
That's a good point. Dogs like a Newf or a Mastiff are much larger and can be potentially more dangerous. My grandfather's last newf weighed in at 225lbs. He was a big boy and we only saw what that kind of mass meant a few times, one of which involved an un-neutered black lab that he whipped around like a squirrel.
Originally Posted By: ClutchDisc
Keep in mind, almost all of the "pit bull attack stories" in the news actually are other breeds of dogs. The news will label any large dog as a pit bull because of the publicity it brings with it.
Truth. When I was a kid, our neighbor's dog bit someone and was put down. It made the news, and they called it a pit bull. It was a Great Dane!
Keep in mind, almost all of the "pit bull attack stories" in the news actually are other breeds of dogs. The news will label any large dog as a pit bull because of the publicity it brings with it.
Truth. When I was a kid, our neighbor's dog bit someone and was put down. It made the news, and they called it a pit bull. It was a Great Dane!
Newfs are almost always friendly and gregarious dogs.
We had what might be called the slender version, a Great Pyrenees, a dog that looks a lot like a Newf but weighs only around 130 lbs if a large male.
Pyrs are usually not outgoing with strangers, particularly males.
They are very good with their own family, though, and are usually also very good with small children.
The Pyr is bred to be a protective dog, and is more reactive to threats than it is agressive.
I consider a protective dog to be a far more useful means of household defense than is a gun, since a gun can't patrol the house and check on your children as they sleep, nor can it wake you up in the middle of the night if someone is trying to break in, nor can a gun chase off an intruder without your help.
WRT the OP, my younger son has a Pit, and he is the sweetest dog you could imagine.
He might lick you to death, or he might cause your arm to fall of due to his desire to be petted, but he is not an agressive dog at all.
The most agressive and bad tempered dogs seem to the smaller breeds.
We had what might be called the slender version, a Great Pyrenees, a dog that looks a lot like a Newf but weighs only around 130 lbs if a large male.
Pyrs are usually not outgoing with strangers, particularly males.
They are very good with their own family, though, and are usually also very good with small children.
The Pyr is bred to be a protective dog, and is more reactive to threats than it is agressive.
I consider a protective dog to be a far more useful means of household defense than is a gun, since a gun can't patrol the house and check on your children as they sleep, nor can it wake you up in the middle of the night if someone is trying to break in, nor can a gun chase off an intruder without your help.
WRT the OP, my younger son has a Pit, and he is the sweetest dog you could imagine.
He might lick you to death, or he might cause your arm to fall of due to his desire to be petted, but he is not an agressive dog at all.
The most agressive and bad tempered dogs seem to the smaller breeds.
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Newfs are almost always friendly and gregarious dogs.
We had what might be called the slender version, a Great Pyrenees, a dog that looks a lot like a Newf but weighs only around 130 lbs if a large male.
Pyrs are usually not outgoing with strangers, particularly males.
They are very good with their own family, though, and are usually also very good with small children.
The Pyr is bred to be a protective dog, and is more reactive to threats than it is agressive.
I consider a protective dog to be a far more useful means of household defense than is a gun, since a gun can't patrol the house and check on your children as they sleep, nor can it wake you up in the middle of the night if someone is trying to break in, nor can a gun chase off an intruder without your help.
WRT the OP, my younger son has a Pit, and he is the sweetest dog you could imagine.
He might lick you to death, or he might cause your arm to fall of due to his desire to be petted, but he is not an agressive dog at all.
The most agressive and bad tempered dogs seem to the smaller breeds.
Agreed on all counts!
Our newf has a similar aversion to strangers, which I typically heed. If somebody is my friend and he's never met them, his result is always positive. However, somebody that is a stranger to us both, his reactions appear to be a good judge of character.
Unfortunately, he developed an aversion to small dogs when he was young because of the aggressive behaviour of one down the street. The dog is basically savage and rushed our dog on several occasions when he was just out with us on the front lawn. He now has zero tolerance for that dog. Unfortunately that also means that he's less approachable to small breeds in general, whilst with large dogs he is fine.
Newfs are almost always friendly and gregarious dogs.
We had what might be called the slender version, a Great Pyrenees, a dog that looks a lot like a Newf but weighs only around 130 lbs if a large male.
Pyrs are usually not outgoing with strangers, particularly males.
They are very good with their own family, though, and are usually also very good with small children.
The Pyr is bred to be a protective dog, and is more reactive to threats than it is agressive.
I consider a protective dog to be a far more useful means of household defense than is a gun, since a gun can't patrol the house and check on your children as they sleep, nor can it wake you up in the middle of the night if someone is trying to break in, nor can a gun chase off an intruder without your help.
WRT the OP, my younger son has a Pit, and he is the sweetest dog you could imagine.
He might lick you to death, or he might cause your arm to fall of due to his desire to be petted, but he is not an agressive dog at all.
The most agressive and bad tempered dogs seem to the smaller breeds.
Agreed on all counts!
Our newf has a similar aversion to strangers, which I typically heed. If somebody is my friend and he's never met them, his result is always positive. However, somebody that is a stranger to us both, his reactions appear to be a good judge of character.
Unfortunately, he developed an aversion to small dogs when he was young because of the aggressive behaviour of one down the street. The dog is basically savage and rushed our dog on several occasions when he was just out with us on the front lawn. He now has zero tolerance for that dog. Unfortunately that also means that he's less approachable to small breeds in general, whilst with large dogs he is fine.
Our Pyr was rushed by an adult German Shepard while my wife was walking him one morning, and the Pyr grabbed and slammed the offending dog without any great effort.
He had what seemed to be an instinctive mistrust of Rotweilers and he got one off of my wife once.
The Rot could barely get a bite at the Pyr through his thick coat.
He was very tolerant of small dogs and if they got a little carried away, he'd just pin them with one front paw until they calmed down.
The neighbor's Jack Russel couldn't seem to get the idea, so the little rat spent a lot of time pinned.
A good dog is a joy and considers himself to be a full member of the family.
He had what seemed to be an instinctive mistrust of Rotweilers and he got one off of my wife once.
The Rot could barely get a bite at the Pyr through his thick coat.
He was very tolerant of small dogs and if they got a little carried away, he'd just pin them with one front paw until they calmed down.
The neighbor's Jack Russel couldn't seem to get the idea, so the little rat spent a lot of time pinned.
A good dog is a joy and considers himself to be a full member of the family.
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Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
I walk my Min Schnauzer every day. He's been attacked 26 times by dogs. Twenty three were Pitbull varieties. I carry a two foot club and have used it many times. Without it, my dog would be dead today and I would have sustained injuries.
Sorry, that breed needs to be banned. Walking time bombs... all of them.
If you've been attacked 26 times by stay dogs, I think you should consider moving. Just sayin'.
I live in a working class suburbian neghborhood where 75% are homeowners. The dogs bolt out of front doors, side doors, jump fences, break thru fences, backyards that are not gated.....etc....etc. I even had one tear thru the front room screen window and attack that way.
This breed and varieties of it, has maimed more people in the past several years than all breeds combined. I am talking about serious injuries that require medical attention and/or hospital stay - and/or death.
Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
I walk my Min Schnauzer every day. He's been attacked 26 times by dogs. Twenty three were Pitbull varieties. I carry a two foot club and have used it many times. Without it, my dog would be dead today and I would have sustained injuries.
Sorry, that breed needs to be banned. Walking time bombs... all of them.
If you've been attacked 26 times by stay dogs, I think you should consider moving. Just sayin'.
I live in a working class suburbian neghborhood where 75% are homeowners. The dogs bolt out of front doors, side doors, jump fences, break thru fences, backyards that are not gated.....etc....etc. I even had one tear thru the front room screen window and attack that way.
This breed and varieties of it, has maimed more people in the past several years than all breeds combined. I am talking about serious injuries that require medical attention and/or hospital stay - and/or death.
I don't buy the "poor, persecuted pit bull" idea. Sure, occasionally another dog may be mistaken for a pit bull, but pit bulls themselves do quite a bit of damage.
Is YOUR pit bull a danger? I don't know, and I didn't say that it is. However, it seems almost universal that when a baby or toddler is savaged by a pit bull, we always hear what a wonderful family dog it has been, and how it has never shown any aggression.
I was chased into my house in my own back yard, back when our fence was in poor repair, by a neighbor's pit bull. I backed into the house, while hitting the dog in the nose with a wood-handled grass whip whenever it got too close. When animal control arrived, this same dog tried to bite the animal control officer as well. There were three dogs, if all of them had been as aggressive as the pit bull, I would have been in real trouble.
Sure, other dogs attack, and sometimes do some damage. None of them have the record that the pit bull has amassed.
Here's an interesting response to that poster:
Find the pit bull?
Is YOUR pit bull a danger? I don't know, and I didn't say that it is. However, it seems almost universal that when a baby or toddler is savaged by a pit bull, we always hear what a wonderful family dog it has been, and how it has never shown any aggression.
I was chased into my house in my own back yard, back when our fence was in poor repair, by a neighbor's pit bull. I backed into the house, while hitting the dog in the nose with a wood-handled grass whip whenever it got too close. When animal control arrived, this same dog tried to bite the animal control officer as well. There were three dogs, if all of them had been as aggressive as the pit bull, I would have been in real trouble.
Sure, other dogs attack, and sometimes do some damage. None of them have the record that the pit bull has amassed.
Here's an interesting response to that poster:
Find the pit bull?
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I sail with a trauma physician who hates the things. He had to sew on a little girls face last week after a run in with one, and handles lots of bite injuries.
The ghetto people love them.
The ghetto people love them.
The neighbor boy has a pitbull. I was able to pet him and play with him as a puppy, but he's most definitely not a puppy now.
The boy is an idiot and doesn't keep this big, powerful dog on a leash. The dog's favorite trick is to rush you and stand right next to you for a second, then run back to the boy. That's always fun. I've given the boy a brief description of what a good dog owner does, and why he should do it. He just doesn't get it, and is one of those "He's just a big puppy and would never harm anyone." people. Like I told him, "You've read the stories. They're always a good dog...until they're not. And when they turn bad it's ugly for everyone around them."
I'm always armed now, even while mowing the yard and tying up the tomatoes. We have a rat terrier that would be dead in a heartbeat if the pitbull ever decides to get mean, and a 3yr old grandson that is often around. I don't live in fear, just being cautious and prepared. He's a good dog...until he isn't.
The boy is an idiot and doesn't keep this big, powerful dog on a leash. The dog's favorite trick is to rush you and stand right next to you for a second, then run back to the boy. That's always fun. I've given the boy a brief description of what a good dog owner does, and why he should do it. He just doesn't get it, and is one of those "He's just a big puppy and would never harm anyone." people. Like I told him, "You've read the stories. They're always a good dog...until they're not. And when they turn bad it's ugly for everyone around them."
I'm always armed now, even while mowing the yard and tying up the tomatoes. We have a rat terrier that would be dead in a heartbeat if the pitbull ever decides to get mean, and a 3yr old grandson that is often around. I don't live in fear, just being cautious and prepared. He's a good dog...until he isn't.
Like another poster said, pit bulls are very eager to serve their owners, and since the owners of bad dogs are usually idiots, this gives those dogs a bad rep. I know people who have pit bulls that are perfect dogs, and others who should not be allowed to own anything including a pet fish.
I find small dogs to be the most aggressive. Small dogs are mainly aggressive to make up for their small size, and their owners are usually the most careless. I've been to many houses where there is a small dog and it constantly tries to attack and bite people while the owner says "oh he's so small he won't hurt you". Yeah he won't hurt me when I punt the dang thing across the room.
I find small dogs to be the most aggressive. Small dogs are mainly aggressive to make up for their small size, and their owners are usually the most careless. I've been to many houses where there is a small dog and it constantly tries to attack and bite people while the owner says "oh he's so small he won't hurt you". Yeah he won't hurt me when I punt the dang thing across the room.
As a biz owner who visits multiple homes every day across all races and incomes I see a LOT of dogs.
The only dog to ever successfully bite me was a miniature Dachsund. It ran right up a gate across a door opening and chomped me right at the waist. The owner was horrified, but defended the dog of course.
It's real cute when the lil yapper runs at you but it is NOT cute when the 100+ pound monster (any breed) runs at you looking fierce. I don't think worse of Pits than any other breed, my son has a big one that is truly a sweetheart.
Stupid people = stupid dogs.
The only dog to ever successfully bite me was a miniature Dachsund. It ran right up a gate across a door opening and chomped me right at the waist. The owner was horrified, but defended the dog of course.
It's real cute when the lil yapper runs at you but it is NOT cute when the 100+ pound monster (any breed) runs at you looking fierce. I don't think worse of Pits than any other breed, my son has a big one that is truly a sweetheart.
Stupid people = stupid dogs.
You just can't ASSUME what an animal would do when the trigger is there. Small dogs have less power and big dogs like Pit Bulls have a lot of power to hurt and kill people when triggered.
This is the reason all dogs should be on leash (with mouth and jaw tied up) in public at all time, just like seat belts are mandatory.
This is the reason all dogs should be on leash (with mouth and jaw tied up) in public at all time, just like seat belts are mandatory.
Originally Posted By: needsducktape
Dogs reflect their owners no matter what breed.
Pit bulls have a bad wrap because HUMANS scum bags train them so they can fight them.
But to be clear, its on an individual basis NOT the BREED as a whole.
Take a Pit Bull at birth and treat/train him with kindness and he will be a well tempered kind dog.
Lassie could have been a killer if trained...
X2. You can make any animal mean.
The vast majority of Pit Bulls I have encountered have been super friendly dogs. One of my former neighbors had two HUGE female Pit Bulls...they were tanks, but all they would do is lick you and bump into you. Never a nip or growl from either one. All they ever wanted to do was play.
Dogs reflect their owners no matter what breed.
Pit bulls have a bad wrap because HUMANS scum bags train them so they can fight them.
But to be clear, its on an individual basis NOT the BREED as a whole.
Take a Pit Bull at birth and treat/train him with kindness and he will be a well tempered kind dog.
Lassie could have been a killer if trained...
X2. You can make any animal mean.
The vast majority of Pit Bulls I have encountered have been super friendly dogs. One of my former neighbors had two HUGE female Pit Bulls...they were tanks, but all they would do is lick you and bump into you. Never a nip or growl from either one. All they ever wanted to do was play.
My brother's Pit Bull is one of the nicest most well behaved dogs I've ever encountered. She's great with adults and small children. I guess it depends.
Originally Posted By: OldSparks
I have mixed feelings on the pit bull ban here in Ontario. I think much of the problem had to do with certain types of owners more so than the breed itself.
With responsible owners, pitties aren't likely to be a problem. However, the statistics for pitbull attacks are telling.
The numbers dont lie, and im not going to tell you all i am a expert, but i am a retired (from K-9 service) Handler that has alot of experience.. Pit bulls ARE a dangerous breed, and even though YOUR dog has never violated the tendancy for violence is 100% in that blood line.. Q. Do you house train a king cobra from small to adult and assume since he's yours and the snakes never bitten you that it never will ? Do you want to gamble and find out the dogs trigger ??? There are so many good lines of dogs out there for residentual and family pets i dont understand why you need this one.. hands down the most violence prone dog im aware of and yes (the numbers dont lie)
My neighbor through the woods has a mostly pit mix and its always been a sweet dog, its been in my yard playing fetch and what not with wife and kids.. About a month a go a bicyclist was going by and this dog targeted, chased, and bit the cyclist.. two weeks later i went to the neighbors to drop something of on the motorcycle and the dog targeted me, ran straight to me and started to take a chunk out of my leg.. I seen it coming and was in the process of throwing my legg out of the way and over the bike when the dog started sinking his teeth in. The dog "Diesel" didnt have a good clamp down on me and released after only a second.. and the owner was able to gather the dog up before the assult continued..
two days after my bite Diesel got yet another passerby.. this time two older ladys in there 50's out for some excersize.. The law got called on that one..
I told the neighbor, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.. that dogs bitten three times now, If i see it in my yard its dead..
The neighbor hhas since turned the dog into a inside dog... its a matter of time before it gets loose and ends up in my yard.. i pray to god my kids are not in the yard..
I have mixed feelings on the pit bull ban here in Ontario. I think much of the problem had to do with certain types of owners more so than the breed itself.
With responsible owners, pitties aren't likely to be a problem. However, the statistics for pitbull attacks are telling.
The numbers dont lie, and im not going to tell you all i am a expert, but i am a retired (from K-9 service) Handler that has alot of experience.. Pit bulls ARE a dangerous breed, and even though YOUR dog has never violated the tendancy for violence is 100% in that blood line.. Q. Do you house train a king cobra from small to adult and assume since he's yours and the snakes never bitten you that it never will ? Do you want to gamble and find out the dogs trigger ??? There are so many good lines of dogs out there for residentual and family pets i dont understand why you need this one.. hands down the most violence prone dog im aware of and yes (the numbers dont lie)
My neighbor through the woods has a mostly pit mix and its always been a sweet dog, its been in my yard playing fetch and what not with wife and kids.. About a month a go a bicyclist was going by and this dog targeted, chased, and bit the cyclist.. two weeks later i went to the neighbors to drop something of on the motorcycle and the dog targeted me, ran straight to me and started to take a chunk out of my leg.. I seen it coming and was in the process of throwing my legg out of the way and over the bike when the dog started sinking his teeth in. The dog "Diesel" didnt have a good clamp down on me and released after only a second.. and the owner was able to gather the dog up before the assult continued..
two days after my bite Diesel got yet another passerby.. this time two older ladys in there 50's out for some excersize.. The law got called on that one..
I told the neighbor, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.. that dogs bitten three times now, If i see it in my yard its dead..
The neighbor hhas since turned the dog into a inside dog... its a matter of time before it gets loose and ends up in my yard.. i pray to god my kids are not in the yard..
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Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
Originally Posted By: OldSparks
I have mixed feelings on the pit bull ban here in Ontario. I think much of the problem had to do with certain types of owners more so than the breed itself.
With responsible owners, pitties aren't likely to be a problem. However, the statistics for pitbull attacks are telling.
The numbers dont lie, and im not going to tell you all i am a expert, but i am a retired (from K-9 service) Handler that has alot of experience.. Pit bulls ARE a dangerous breed, and even though YOUR dog has never violated the tendancy for violence is 100% in that blood line.. Q. Do you house train a king cobra from small to adult and assume since he's yours and the snakes never bitten you that it never will ? Do you want to gamble and find out the dogs trigger ??? There are so many good lines of dogs out there for residentual and family pets i dont understand why you need this one.. hands down the most violence prone dog im aware of and yes (the numbers dont lie)
My neighbor through the woods has a mostly pit mix and its always been a sweet dog, its been in my yard playing fetch and what not with wife and kids.. About a month a go a bicyclist was going by and this dog targeted, chased, and bit the cyclist.. two weeks later i went to the neighbors to drop something of on the motorcycle and the dog targeted me, ran straight to me and started to take a chunk out of my leg.. I seen it coming and was in the process of throwing my legg out of the way and over the bike when the dog started sinking his teeth in. The dog "Diesel" didnt have a good clamp down on me and released after only a second.. and the owner was able to gather the dog up before the assult continued..
two days after my bite Diesel got yet another passerby.. this time two older ladys in there 50's out for some excersize.. The law got called on that one..
I told the neighbor, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.. that dogs bitten three times now, If i see it in my yard its dead..
The neighbor hhas since turned the dog into a inside dog... its a matter of time before it gets loose and ends up in my yard.. i pray to god my kids are not in the yard..
You are much more forgiving than I am. If a dog bit me like that, it would be dead. The last dog that attacked me wore a large chunk of asphalt into the side of its head, and it was a nutty golden that lived down the road from my parents. It rushed my friend and I while we were on a bike ride. We out-ran it because it had to come 100m down from their porch, however we armed ourselves on the way back home (there was only one way to get to our road when we lived out east) in anticipation that this dog would charge us again. It did. It wore a good 15lb chunk of asphalt right in the side of the skull and went sailing down the ditch like it was sporting a set of wings. It didn't die from that incident, but didn't come after me after that encounter. However, my buddy's dad was out on a ride and he wasn't all there in the first place so it didn't take much to set him off. Well he gets attacked by "Charlie" and the dog magically disappeared that night. He wore a complimentary round of .303 to the head and got tossed in the marsh. There's no reason for people to not have control of their dogs and there is CERTAINLY no reason for dogs that are obviously mentally unstable to be kept around. I don't "get" these people that get all upset when their dog takes a chunk out of somebody and they don't think the dog (or themselves) are at fault and that the dog shouldn't be put down. HELLO! Your pet is a freakin' menace and you can't control it! Ergo, it gets euthanasia.
Originally Posted By: OldSparks
I have mixed feelings on the pit bull ban here in Ontario. I think much of the problem had to do with certain types of owners more so than the breed itself.
With responsible owners, pitties aren't likely to be a problem. However, the statistics for pitbull attacks are telling.
The numbers dont lie, and im not going to tell you all i am a expert, but i am a retired (from K-9 service) Handler that has alot of experience.. Pit bulls ARE a dangerous breed, and even though YOUR dog has never violated the tendancy for violence is 100% in that blood line.. Q. Do you house train a king cobra from small to adult and assume since he's yours and the snakes never bitten you that it never will ? Do you want to gamble and find out the dogs trigger ??? There are so many good lines of dogs out there for residentual and family pets i dont understand why you need this one.. hands down the most violence prone dog im aware of and yes (the numbers dont lie)
My neighbor through the woods has a mostly pit mix and its always been a sweet dog, its been in my yard playing fetch and what not with wife and kids.. About a month a go a bicyclist was going by and this dog targeted, chased, and bit the cyclist.. two weeks later i went to the neighbors to drop something of on the motorcycle and the dog targeted me, ran straight to me and started to take a chunk out of my leg.. I seen it coming and was in the process of throwing my legg out of the way and over the bike when the dog started sinking his teeth in. The dog "Diesel" didnt have a good clamp down on me and released after only a second.. and the owner was able to gather the dog up before the assult continued..
two days after my bite Diesel got yet another passerby.. this time two older ladys in there 50's out for some excersize.. The law got called on that one..
I told the neighbor, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.. that dogs bitten three times now, If i see it in my yard its dead..
The neighbor hhas since turned the dog into a inside dog... its a matter of time before it gets loose and ends up in my yard.. i pray to god my kids are not in the yard..
You are much more forgiving than I am. If a dog bit me like that, it would be dead. The last dog that attacked me wore a large chunk of asphalt into the side of its head, and it was a nutty golden that lived down the road from my parents. It rushed my friend and I while we were on a bike ride. We out-ran it because it had to come 100m down from their porch, however we armed ourselves on the way back home (there was only one way to get to our road when we lived out east) in anticipation that this dog would charge us again. It did. It wore a good 15lb chunk of asphalt right in the side of the skull and went sailing down the ditch like it was sporting a set of wings. It didn't die from that incident, but didn't come after me after that encounter. However, my buddy's dad was out on a ride and he wasn't all there in the first place so it didn't take much to set him off. Well he gets attacked by "Charlie" and the dog magically disappeared that night. He wore a complimentary round of .303 to the head and got tossed in the marsh. There's no reason for people to not have control of their dogs and there is CERTAINLY no reason for dogs that are obviously mentally unstable to be kept around. I don't "get" these people that get all upset when their dog takes a chunk out of somebody and they don't think the dog (or themselves) are at fault and that the dog shouldn't be put down. HELLO! Your pet is a freakin' menace and you can't control it! Ergo, it gets euthanasia.
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Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
Originally Posted By: OldSparks
I have mixed feelings on the pit bull ban here in Ontario. I think much of the problem had to do with certain types of owners more so than the breed itself.
With responsible owners, pitties aren't likely to be a problem. However, the statistics for pitbull attacks are telling.
The numbers dont lie, and im not going to tell you all i am a expert, but i am a retired (from K-9 service) Handler that has alot of experience.. Pit bulls ARE a dangerous breed, and even though YOUR dog has never violated the tendancy for violence is 100% in that blood line.. Q. Do you house train a king cobra from small to adult and assume since he's yours and the snakes never bitten you that it never will ? Do you want to gamble and find out the dogs trigger ??? There are so many good lines of dogs out there for residentual and family pets i dont understand why you need this one.. hands down the most violence prone dog im aware of and yes (the numbers dont lie)
My neighbor through the woods has a mostly pit mix and its always been a sweet dog, its been in my yard playing fetch and what not with wife and kids.. About a month a go a bicyclist was going by and this dog targeted, chased, and bit the cyclist.. two weeks later i went to the neighbors to drop something of on the motorcycle and the dog targeted me, ran straight to me and started to take a chunk out of my leg.. I seen it coming and was in the process of throwing my legg out of the way and over the bike when the dog started sinking his teeth in. The dog "Diesel" didnt have a good clamp down on me and released after only a second.. and the owner was able to gather the dog up before the assult continued..
two days after my bite Diesel got yet another passerby.. this time two older ladys in there 50's out for some excersize.. The law got called on that one..
I told the neighbor, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.. that dogs bitten three times now, If i see it in my yard its dead..
The neighbor hhas since turned the dog into a inside dog... its a matter of time before it gets loose and ends up in my yard.. i pray to god my kids are not in the yard..
You are much more forgiving than I am. If a dog bit me like that, it would be dead. The last dog that attacked me wore a large chunk of asphalt into the side of its head, and it was a nutty golden that lived down the road from my parents. It rushed my friend and I while we were on a bike ride. We out-ran it because it had to come 100m down from their porch, however we armed ourselves on the way back home (there was only one way to get to our road when we lived out east) in anticipation that this dog would charge us again. It did. It wore a good 15lb chunk of asphalt right in the side of the skull and went sailing down the ditch like it was sporting a set of wings. It didn't die from that incident, but didn't come after me after that encounter. However, my buddy's dad was out on a ride and he wasn't all there in the first place so it didn't take much to set him off. Well he gets attacked by "Charlie" and the dog magically disappeared that night. He wore a complimentary round of .303 to the head and got tossed in the marsh. There's no reason for people to not have control of their dogs and there is CERTAINLY no reason for dogs that are obviously mentally unstable to be kept around. I don't "get" these people that get all upset when their dog takes a chunk out of somebody and they don't think the dog (or themselves) are at fault and that the dog shouldn't be put down. HELLO! Your pet is a freakin' menace and you can't control it! Ergo, it gets euthanasia.
And it should.
I've trained rotties(mine) to guard my home and family. Sign in the yard says guard dog on duty. Call the house and we will tie up the dogs. My dogs would not go outside the perimeter of my property nor were they aggressive if they saw me.
If one of my dogs EVER bit someone outside the perimeter no need to call the cops or SPCA. I'll shoot him myself and give copies of their shots,however my dogs did scare many who chose to ignore the signs,and that isn't the dogs fault,its the person choosing to ignore the obvious postings at the end of my acreage,and all the way up my half mile driveway.
I've got friends who are getting around the ban by breeding jack Russell terriers with pit bulls. You want to see insane dogs. Those things are a pack hunting nightmare to just about anything alive.
But they aren't put bulls.
Originally Posted By: OtisBlkR1
Originally Posted By: OldSparks
I have mixed feelings on the pit bull ban here in Ontario. I think much of the problem had to do with certain types of owners more so than the breed itself.
With responsible owners, pitties aren't likely to be a problem. However, the statistics for pitbull attacks are telling.
The numbers dont lie, and im not going to tell you all i am a expert, but i am a retired (from K-9 service) Handler that has alot of experience.. Pit bulls ARE a dangerous breed, and even though YOUR dog has never violated the tendancy for violence is 100% in that blood line.. Q. Do you house train a king cobra from small to adult and assume since he's yours and the snakes never bitten you that it never will ? Do you want to gamble and find out the dogs trigger ??? There are so many good lines of dogs out there for residentual and family pets i dont understand why you need this one.. hands down the most violence prone dog im aware of and yes (the numbers dont lie)
My neighbor through the woods has a mostly pit mix and its always been a sweet dog, its been in my yard playing fetch and what not with wife and kids.. About a month a go a bicyclist was going by and this dog targeted, chased, and bit the cyclist.. two weeks later i went to the neighbors to drop something of on the motorcycle and the dog targeted me, ran straight to me and started to take a chunk out of my leg.. I seen it coming and was in the process of throwing my legg out of the way and over the bike when the dog started sinking his teeth in. The dog "Diesel" didnt have a good clamp down on me and released after only a second.. and the owner was able to gather the dog up before the assult continued..
two days after my bite Diesel got yet another passerby.. this time two older ladys in there 50's out for some excersize.. The law got called on that one..
I told the neighbor, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.. that dogs bitten three times now, If i see it in my yard its dead..
The neighbor hhas since turned the dog into a inside dog... its a matter of time before it gets loose and ends up in my yard.. i pray to god my kids are not in the yard..
You are much more forgiving than I am. If a dog bit me like that, it would be dead. The last dog that attacked me wore a large chunk of asphalt into the side of its head, and it was a nutty golden that lived down the road from my parents. It rushed my friend and I while we were on a bike ride. We out-ran it because it had to come 100m down from their porch, however we armed ourselves on the way back home (there was only one way to get to our road when we lived out east) in anticipation that this dog would charge us again. It did. It wore a good 15lb chunk of asphalt right in the side of the skull and went sailing down the ditch like it was sporting a set of wings. It didn't die from that incident, but didn't come after me after that encounter. However, my buddy's dad was out on a ride and he wasn't all there in the first place so it didn't take much to set him off. Well he gets attacked by "Charlie" and the dog magically disappeared that night. He wore a complimentary round of .303 to the head and got tossed in the marsh. There's no reason for people to not have control of their dogs and there is CERTAINLY no reason for dogs that are obviously mentally unstable to be kept around. I don't "get" these people that get all upset when their dog takes a chunk out of somebody and they don't think the dog (or themselves) are at fault and that the dog shouldn't be put down. HELLO! Your pet is a freakin' menace and you can't control it! Ergo, it gets euthanasia.
And it should.
I've trained rotties(mine) to guard my home and family. Sign in the yard says guard dog on duty. Call the house and we will tie up the dogs. My dogs would not go outside the perimeter of my property nor were they aggressive if they saw me.
If one of my dogs EVER bit someone outside the perimeter no need to call the cops or SPCA. I'll shoot him myself and give copies of their shots,however my dogs did scare many who chose to ignore the signs,and that isn't the dogs fault,its the person choosing to ignore the obvious postings at the end of my acreage,and all the way up my half mile driveway.
I've got friends who are getting around the ban by breeding jack Russell terriers with pit bulls. You want to see insane dogs. Those things are a pack hunting nightmare to just about anything alive.
But they aren't put bulls.
I grew up in a farm and we had tons of dogs and cats. Most came and went in a matter of a season or two, mostly because they were killed by other dogs or they just ran away. Because of that I don't have a particular attachment to pets. If a dog bit someone it got put down immediately.
We did have one dog that managed to stay with us for about 15 years. It was a small dog and was always looking to harass bigger dogs. Well, it didn't die of old age, but because it picked a fight with a bigger dog and got injured pretty badly during the fight. It managed to come home and died on the porch.
This was the only dog I felt sorry for loosing, but we would not hesitate to put it down if it started exhibiting aggressive behaviour towards us or other people.
We did have one dog that managed to stay with us for about 15 years. It was a small dog and was always looking to harass bigger dogs. Well, it didn't die of old age, but because it picked a fight with a bigger dog and got injured pretty badly during the fight. It managed to come home and died on the porch.
This was the only dog I felt sorry for loosing, but we would not hesitate to put it down if it started exhibiting aggressive behaviour towards us or other people.
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