Pet Food

Hitzy · Mar 25, 2010

Originally Posted By: labman

All this filter cutting and speculating reminds me of the food kooks on the dog forums that look at the ingredients that go into dog foods and rate them by that. There are no controlled studies on dog food available to the public either. The professionals at the service dog schools have evaluated different foods in their thousands dogs and they feed Fram, er I mean common brands including Iams, Pro Plan, and science Diet. All 3 are dismissed as garbage or MacDonalds by those speculating about ingredients.

Well Iams did kill hundreds of cats and dogs not too long ago by skimping on quality and buying poisoned chinese rice protien, so yeah, they kind of [censored] the bed in the quality department.
You can feed your dog that [censored] and take your chances, same as throwing an OCOD on your car

labman · Mar 25, 2010

And which brand do you rep? For those interested in the facts, most of the brands of canned and semimoist dog foods were recalled a couple of years ago. This included not only the common brands, but many of the premium ones too. Some brands escaped the recall only because they don't sell a canned food. The only dry kibbles that were recalled, were the premium brands. Neither Iams nor the other common brands of dry kibble were recalled or involved in the deaths.

I find it highly misleading to bash Iams like that.

Hitzy · Mar 25, 2010

Originally Posted By: labman
And which brand do you rep? For those interested in the facts, most of the brands of canned and semimoist dog foods were recalled a couple of years ago. This included not only the common brands, but many of the premium ones too. Some brands escaped the recall only because they don't sell a canned food. The only dry kibbles that were recalled, were the premium brands. Neither Iams nor the other common brands of dry kibble were recalled or involved in the deaths.

I find it highly misleading to bash Iams like that.

No premium brands on the Menu Foods list buddy, just the bottom of the barrel [censored]. Iams has ALWAYS been [censored] food, they just charged more for it so people thought it was premium. I'm baffled why people would ever buy that stuff again after what they did. Just like oil filters, there is cheap garbage scrap people should stay away from, and there is stuff that is a good bang for your buck.
Anyway, this is an oil filter forum, so back on topic. Fram sucks.

Sayjac · Mar 25, 2010

Originally Posted By: Hitzy
Originally Posted By: labman

All this filter cutting and speculating reminds me of the food kooks on the dog forums that look at the ingredients that go into dog foods and rate them by that. There are no controlled studies on dog food available to the public either. The professionals at the service dog schools have evaluated different foods in their thousands dogs and they feed Fram, er I mean common brands including Iams, Pro Plan, and science Diet. All 3 are dismissed as garbage or MacDonalds by those speculating about ingredients.

Well Iams did kill hundreds of cats and dogs not too long ago by skimping on quality and buying poisoned chinese rice protien, so yeah, they kind of [censored] the bed in the quality department.
You can feed your dog that [censored] and take your chances, same as throwing an OCOD on your car

You know I forgot all about the Iams deal. They did have that Melamine [censored] in it from China, and had to be recalled. Looks like the original posted Iams analogy didn't work out so well.

Or was that sarcasm?

Now as for the second regarding the orange can, close.

Good catch.

labman · Mar 25, 2010

Iams deal? Iams principally produces dry kibble, none of which was ever recalled. It was a canned food deal, and nearly all the brands of canned food were recalled. Maybe all of them. Certainly many of the premium brands that did have a canned product along with some of their dry kibbles. Then a year ago you had dogs eating Nutro and dieing and Nutro stonewalling the problem and refusing to recall it.

Sayjac · Mar 26, 2010

LOL. Who cares what type? I don't. Iams had it's dog food recalled for melamine just like I said, and no backpedaling or spinning will change that.

So the second analogy of Iams to the orange can seems most apt.

labman · Mar 26, 2010

From http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/newpetfoodrecalls/

Cat, Dog Products

BLUE BUFFALO

Country Value

DIAMOND

DINGO

DOCTORS FOSTER & SMITH CHICKEN

**** Van Patten's Natural Balance Venison

EVOLVE

HARMONY FARMS

Health Diet

KASCO Cat

LICK YOUR CHOPS

Natural Balance

Nutra Nugget

Pounce

Professional

Royal Canin

Dog Products

ALPO

AMERICAS CHOICE

AUTHORITY

AWARD

American Bullie

BEST CHOICE

BIG BET

BIG RED

BLOOM

BLUE BUFFALO

Beefeaters

Berkley & Jensen

CADILLAC

CANINE CAVIAR

Champion

Companion

Country Value

DEMOULAS MARKET BASKET

DIAMOND

DINGO

DOCTORS FOSTER & SMITH

Dermaxx

**** Van Patten's Natural Balance Venison

Dollar General

Eukanuba

FOOD LION

Fort Dodge

GIANT COMPANION

GRREAT CHOICE

Gravy Train

HARMONY FARMS

HILL COUNTRY FARE

HY-VEE

Happy Tails

IAMS

Jerky Treats

KASCO

KIRKLAND

LAURA LYNN

LOVING MEALS

MEIJER MAIN CHOICE

MIGHTY DOG

MIXABLES

MULLIGAN STEW

NATURAL BALANCE

NATURAL LIFE

NUTRIPLAN

NUTRO

NUTRO MAX

NUTRO NATURAL CHOICE

NUTRO ULTRA

Natural Way

Nurture

Nutra Nugget

NutraGold

OL ROY CANADA

OL ROY US

Ol' Roy

PAWS

PET ESSENTIALS

PET PRIDE

PRESIDENT'S CHOICE

PRICE CHOPPER

PRIORITY CANADA

PRIORITY US

PUBLIX

Perfect Pals

Pet Life

ProHeart

Professional

ROCHE BROTHERS

Royal Canin

SAVE-A-LOT

SCHNUCKS

SHEP

SHEP DOG

SHOP RITE

SPRINGFIELD PRIZE

SPROUT

STATER BROTHERS

STOP & SHOP COMPANION

Safe-Guard

Sensible Choice

SmartPak

Stater Brothers

Thyroxine

Thyroxyl

WEGMANS BRUISER

WEIS TOTAL PET

WESTERN FAMILY US

WHITE ROSE

WINN DIXIE

Yourpet

Dog, Cat Products

AUTHORITY

AWARD

BEST CHOICE

CO-OP GOLD

COMPLIMENTS

Fort Dodge

HEALTH DIET GOURMET CUISINE

HILL COUNTRY FARE

HY-VEE

LA GRIFFE

MASTER CHOICE

NATURAL LIFE

NUPET

OL ROY CANADA

PERFORMATRIN ULTRA

PET PRIDE

PRESIDENT'S CHOICE

PRIORITY

SCHNUCKS

SPRINGFIELD PRIZE

STATER BROTHERS

TRIUMPH

TRULY

WESTERN FAMILY

So you can see there were a few others including many of premium brands.

There is a link on that site to a more detailed list of just which products were recalled. You will not find any of the Iams, Purina, or Science Diet dry kibbles on the detailed list. You are presenting a very distorted picture. I haven't trusted anything you post for a long time.

badnews · Mar 26, 2010

They have a GD for dog food discussions - I thought this was the oil filter forum

webfors · Mar 26, 2010

Originally Posted By: badnews
They have a GD for dog food discussions - I thought this was the oil filter forum

+1

Take the pet food talk to PM

AuthorEditor · Mar 26, 2010

I refuse to feed my dog any food made by Fram!

paulo57509 · Mar 26, 2010

Topics are constantly going off topic in these forums. But this is ridiculous.

Subject has been corrected.

shokhead · Mar 26, 2010

I like Bosch.

Bottom_Feeder · Mar 26, 2010

My cat likes Meow Mix best, but oddly she doesn't seem to care what brand of oil filter I use on my car. If only there was a message board where such things could be discussed...

Sayjac · Mar 26, 2010

Originally Posted By: paulo57509
Topics are constantly going off topic in these forums. But this is ridiculous.

I totally agree with you, just consider the source of the tedious inane copy and paste.

And, when it's not some off topic oil filter ownership agenda, it's some vapid oil filter dog food comparison.

And so it goes.....

hr1940 · Mar 26, 2010

I have locked this thread. I am sending a warning to all that are involved that insulting other members and hijacking threads can result in time away from the board.

Helen

LS2JSTS · Mar 26, 2010

IME there are only a small number of producers who actually make all the dog food for the various brands. I know that the Andersons in Ohio bags Purina and Diamond and many other brands at their plants. Or at least they use to back in the seventies. Is this practice still used today?

andyd · Mar 26, 2010

Meh, I do not buy Frams for my cars. My daughter, despite my warnings re Frams , one stops her shopping for the oil + filter. Dino Valvoline 5w30 and a Fram for her 06 'Rolla. Just about to hit 100k miles , no issues. I do the oil changes when she gets me the stuff, ~ 5K OCI.
I dont have a dog ,yet, but I have 2 old cats. I have sworn off all Chinese food products for all of us.

shokhead · Mar 27, 2010

I like dogs.

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