Is the pennzoil brand good bad?????
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Pennzoil is good oil. This is one of those threads that has potential to get interesting.
Pennzoil Platinum is an excellent product. It meets the Honda/Acura HTO-06 spec along with Mobil1 (5w30 in both cases). Use it with confidence. Do you need some sort of proof? Some sort of vindication do you?
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Well lets make this interesting and my pet peeve.its a Group 3 oil and I hate that word synthetic connected to them.I think synthetic I think the few extended drain oils that you normally don't see sold over the counter for a few bucks a qt.Yes PP is a good oil but its NOT a top tier synthetic in my book.its a LOW end synthetic(hate the word connected to these oils) in my mind as are many others.
Lets make this real interesting.
Valvoline synpower is better than Pennzoil Platnium.
Valvoline synpower is better than Pennzoil Platnium.
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Originally Posted By: hounddog
Well lets make this interesting and my pet peeve.its a Group 3 oil and I hate that word synthetic connected to them.I think synthetic I think the few extended drain oils that you normally don't see sold over the counter for a few bucks a qt.Yes PP is a good oil but its NOT a top tier synthetic in my book.its a LOW end synthetic(hate the word connected to these oils) in my mind as are many others.
I agree with you and I`ll add my opinion to that. Imo,grp III oils are just like distilled water. It`s dino oil that`s just been "purified" to remove all the dirt,wax,and contaminants from our dear ole Mother earth. To me,a synthetic oil has to be "synthesized" by chemists,whereas they use certain elements/chemicals (is it certain gasses and such they play with per se to produce the man-made synthesized base lubricant) to produce the base product and go from there,instead of starting with an already made base product (mineral oil) and just "clean it up". I may be WAY wrong here,but to my layman`s mind,that`s how I understand it.
Well lets make this interesting and my pet peeve.its a Group 3 oil and I hate that word synthetic connected to them.I think synthetic I think the few extended drain oils that you normally don't see sold over the counter for a few bucks a qt.Yes PP is a good oil but its NOT a top tier synthetic in my book.its a LOW end synthetic(hate the word connected to these oils) in my mind as are many others.
I agree with you and I`ll add my opinion to that. Imo,grp III oils are just like distilled water. It`s dino oil that`s just been "purified" to remove all the dirt,wax,and contaminants from our dear ole Mother earth. To me,a synthetic oil has to be "synthesized" by chemists,whereas they use certain elements/chemicals (is it certain gasses and such they play with per se to produce the man-made synthesized base lubricant) to produce the base product and go from there,instead of starting with an already made base product (mineral oil) and just "clean it up". I may be WAY wrong here,but to my layman`s mind,that`s how I understand it.
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
True.
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
True.
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Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
That`s what I`ve read as well. I had someone tell me that (base oils alone with no additive pack yet added) grp II dino is the best at lubrication. So would a plain jane dino oil protect/lubricate the best out of all oils if it`s religiously changed?
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
That`s what I`ve read as well. I had someone tell me that (base oils alone with no additive pack yet added) grp II dino is the best at lubrication. So would a plain jane dino oil protect/lubricate the best out of all oils if it`s religiously changed?
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Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
That`s what I`ve read as well. I had someone tell me that (base oils alone with no additive pack yet added) grp II dino is the best at lubrication. So would a plain jane dino oil protect/lubricate the best out of all oils if it`s religiously changed?
Doubtful. There wouldn't be any adds to prevent frothing and foaming of the oil, which would decrease protection drastically. No moly, ZDDP or anything would be included. It might lubricate best at first, but after a short time it would go the other way.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
That`s what I`ve read as well. I had someone tell me that (base oils alone with no additive pack yet added) grp II dino is the best at lubrication. So would a plain jane dino oil protect/lubricate the best out of all oils if it`s religiously changed?
Doubtful. There wouldn't be any adds to prevent frothing and foaming of the oil, which would decrease protection drastically. No moly, ZDDP or anything would be included. It might lubricate best at first, but after a short time it would go the other way.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
lets fight for fun!!!!!!! there is NO SYNTHETIC OIL !!! PERIOD
Industrial methods
In organic chemistry, an alkene, olefin, or olefine is an unsaturated chemical compound containing at least one carbon-to-carbon double bond.[1] The simplest acyclic alkenes, with only one double bond and no other functional groups, form a homologous series of hydrocarbons with the general formula CnH2n.[2]
The most common industrial synthesis of alkenes is based on cracking of petroleum. Large alkanes are broken apart at high temperatures, often in the presence of a zeolite catalyst, to give alkenes and smaller alkanes, and the mixture of products is then separated by fractional distillation. This is mainly used for the manufacture of small alkenes (up to six carbons).[1]
# In July 1996, Consumer Reports published the results of a two year motor oil test involving a fleet of 75 New York taxi cabs and found no noticeable advantage of "synthetic oil" over regular oil.[12] In their article, they noted that "Big-city cabs don't see many cold start-ups or long periods of high speed driving in extreme heat. But our test results relate to the most common type of severe service — stop-and-go city driving." According to their study, synthetic oil is "worth considering for extreme driving conditions: high ambient temperatures and high engine load, or very cold temperatures." [13] This research was criticized by some because most engine damage appears to be caused by cold starts, and their research method may not have included enough cold starts to be representative of personal vehicle use.[14]
# Synthetic oils are not recommended in automotive rotary engines.[15]
so what. a group Iv and v are still made from petroleum products straight from the earth probably from iran . so before we get high and mighty, there really is no true synthetic oil unless you are running soy beans in that rice burner of yours. SO LETS PUT THE MYTH TO REST. iTS ALL A MARKETING PLOY.
At least that way you would have a complete protein.
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
lets fight for fun!!!!!!! there is NO SYNTHETIC OIL !!! PERIOD
Industrial methods
In organic chemistry, an alkene, olefin, or olefine is an unsaturated chemical compound containing at least one carbon-to-carbon double bond.[1] The simplest acyclic alkenes, with only one double bond and no other functional groups, form a homologous series of hydrocarbons with the general formula CnH2n.[2]
The most common industrial synthesis of alkenes is based on cracking of petroleum. Large alkanes are broken apart at high temperatures, often in the presence of a zeolite catalyst, to give alkenes and smaller alkanes, and the mixture of products is then separated by fractional distillation. This is mainly used for the manufacture of small alkenes (up to six carbons).[1]
# In July 1996, Consumer Reports published the results of a two year motor oil test involving a fleet of 75 New York taxi cabs and found no noticeable advantage of "synthetic oil" over regular oil.[12] In their article, they noted that "Big-city cabs don't see many cold start-ups or long periods of high speed driving in extreme heat. But our test results relate to the most common type of severe service — stop-and-go city driving." According to their study, synthetic oil is "worth considering for extreme driving conditions: high ambient temperatures and high engine load, or very cold temperatures." [13] This research was criticized by some because most engine damage appears to be caused by cold starts, and their research method may not have included enough cold starts to be representative of personal vehicle use.[14]
# Synthetic oils are not recommended in automotive rotary engines.[15]
so what. a group Iv and v are still made from petroleum products straight from the earth probably from iran . so before we get high and mighty, there really is no true synthetic oil unless you are running soy beans in that rice burner of yours. SO LETS PUT THE MYTH TO REST. iTS ALL A MARKETING PLOY.
At least that way you would have a complete protein.
Originally Posted By: chad8
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
lets fight for fun!!!!!!! there is NO SYNTHETIC OIL !!! PERIOD
Industrial methods
In organic chemistry, an alkene, olefin, or olefine is an unsaturated chemical compound containing at least one carbon-to-carbon double bond.[1] The simplest acyclic alkenes, with only one double bond and no other functional groups, form a homologous series of hydrocarbons with the general formula CnH2n.[2]
The most common industrial synthesis of alkenes is based on cracking of petroleum. Large alkanes are broken apart at high temperatures, often in the presence of a zeolite catalyst, to give alkenes and smaller alkanes, and the mixture of products is then separated by fractional distillation. This is mainly used for the manufacture of small alkenes (up to six carbons).[1]
# In July 1996, Consumer Reports published the results of a two year motor oil test involving a fleet of 75 New York taxi cabs and found no noticeable advantage of "synthetic oil" over regular oil.[12] In their article, they noted that "Big-city cabs don't see many cold start-ups or long periods of high speed driving in extreme heat. But our test results relate to the most common type of severe service — stop-and-go city driving." According to their study, synthetic oil is "worth considering for extreme driving conditions: high ambient temperatures and high engine load, or very cold temperatures." [13] This research was criticized by some because most engine damage appears to be caused by cold starts, and their research method may not have included enough cold starts to be representative of personal vehicle use.[14]
# Synthetic oils are not recommended in automotive rotary engines.[15]
so what. a group Iv and v are still made from petroleum products straight from the earth probably from iran . so before we get high and mighty, there really is no true synthetic oil unless you are running soy beans in that rice burner of yours. SO LETS PUT THE MYTH TO REST. iTS ALL A MARKETING PLOY.
At least that way you would have a complete protein.
I certainly hope you aren't referring to me. I hope you aren't saying I am acting high and mighty, and you sure as heck better not be calling my car a rice burner, because you will receive a PM containing some very unpleasant terms. I HATE rice, and if anyone calls my car a rice car I would be tempted to dump sand in their engine. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all Grp IV and Grp V oils made from non-petroleum products? Not to seem confrontational, but Rice is one of my ultimate hates in life, and it really burns me to think anyone would call me a ricer, and my car a rice car. I am very defensive about this topic, if you can't tell.
Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Fully synthetic Grp IV and Vs as I understand it aren't inherently good at lubricating. They need alot of additives to be good at their job. Also, as I understand it a hydro-cracked oil such as PP is almost as good as a true synthetic. AND a heck of a lot cheaper.
lets fight for fun!!!!!!! there is NO SYNTHETIC OIL !!! PERIOD
Industrial methods
In organic chemistry, an alkene, olefin, or olefine is an unsaturated chemical compound containing at least one carbon-to-carbon double bond.[1] The simplest acyclic alkenes, with only one double bond and no other functional groups, form a homologous series of hydrocarbons with the general formula CnH2n.[2]
The most common industrial synthesis of alkenes is based on cracking of petroleum. Large alkanes are broken apart at high temperatures, often in the presence of a zeolite catalyst, to give alkenes and smaller alkanes, and the mixture of products is then separated by fractional distillation. This is mainly used for the manufacture of small alkenes (up to six carbons).[1]
# In July 1996, Consumer Reports published the results of a two year motor oil test involving a fleet of 75 New York taxi cabs and found no noticeable advantage of "synthetic oil" over regular oil.[12] In their article, they noted that "Big-city cabs don't see many cold start-ups or long periods of high speed driving in extreme heat. But our test results relate to the most common type of severe service — stop-and-go city driving." According to their study, synthetic oil is "worth considering for extreme driving conditions: high ambient temperatures and high engine load, or very cold temperatures." [13] This research was criticized by some because most engine damage appears to be caused by cold starts, and their research method may not have included enough cold starts to be representative of personal vehicle use.[14]
# Synthetic oils are not recommended in automotive rotary engines.[15]
so what. a group Iv and v are still made from petroleum products straight from the earth probably from iran . so before we get high and mighty, there really is no true synthetic oil unless you are running soy beans in that rice burner of yours. SO LETS PUT THE MYTH TO REST. iTS ALL A MARKETING PLOY.
At least that way you would have a complete protein.
I certainly hope you aren't referring to me. I hope you aren't saying I am acting high and mighty, and you sure as heck better not be calling my car a rice burner, because you will receive a PM containing some very unpleasant terms. I HATE rice, and if anyone calls my car a rice car I would be tempted to dump sand in their engine. And correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all Grp IV and Grp V oils made from non-petroleum products? Not to seem confrontational, but Rice is one of my ultimate hates in life, and it really burns me to think anyone would call me a ricer, and my car a rice car. I am very defensive about this topic, if you can't tell.
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rudolphna I certainly hope you aren't referring to me. I hope you aren't saying I am acting high and mighty said:
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Is the pennzoil brand good bad?????
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Is the pennzoil brand good bad?????
Opinions are like a-holes everyone has one.
To the OP threads like this are meaningless. This is your first post, spend some time on here and form your own opinions.
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