Partial Frontal Impact Test on Small SUV's

[SteveSRT8]

A vehicle to vehicle accident is VERY different from these barrier tests. Another car is not the same as a massive immovable barrier that doesn't even deform!

I, too, will prefer the larger heavier vehicle in any crash into another one. Physics is very difficult to ignore.

Our aftermarket upfitter has a guy on the payroll who does nothing but work the accidents that inevitably occur when you sell the trucks nationwide. Ours weigh a nice round 4.5 tons and local police frequently over estimate their speed due to impact severity.

 

[supton]

Careful. Big heavy trucks are known for rollovers.

I also wouldn't want to feed such a tank for my normal driving.

 

[SteveSRT8]

Originally Posted By: supton
Careful. Big heavy trucks are known for rollovers.

I also wouldn't want to feed such a tank for my normal driving.


No one was even discussing rollovers. Please explain the relevancy.

And trust my 3k a month gas bill, NO ONE wants to feed them!!!

 

[supton]

DrDusty indicates he'd rather daily drive his 8,700lb tank, under the assumption it'd simply cut through anything. I'm pointing out that it won't negotiate a sudden turn so well, nor stop as well, nor will that extra weight be help if he is the one to leave the road surface.

In the event of two vehicles hitting one another, the heavier one is to be in, given reasonably equivalent crumple zones and safety equipment and age. But not all accidents involve two moving vehicles. That's my point, not all accidents are offset collisions.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: DrDusty86

That is what I'm trying to say. Some of the people on here don't see it. My truck is a Crew cab Dually 4x4 diesel with a Titan 90G tank and Bumper replacements front and rear with a Warn 16.5TI winch on the front.
It weighs 8700lbs with just me and full of fuel. What does a KIA SUV weigh? My guess is about 3600lbs. The driver would be dead before they knew what was happening


In the real world, you always want to be in the vehicle that has more mass. That dually would slice through a Crown Vic like it was wet toilet paper.


No, it wouldn't. The Panther cars are incredibly tough...I saw two wrecks (a Vic went head-on with a dually and a Grand Marquis rear-ended by a dump truck) that looked like they should have been fatal. Nobody in either car had more than a scratch.

 

[Sunnyinhollister]

In 2001 I was involved in an overlap accident with a car of similar size in my 1998 Jetta. My left leg was crushed above the knee. Here's what the IIHS said in their crash test:

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=83

My Jetta was actually the same color and looked about the same after the accident. These tests are relevant unlike the government tests.

 

[DrDusty86]

The training wheels on my truck do make it more stable. I do agree, that's why I don't do much swerving

I saw a 01 Dodge 4wd Cummins run over a Chevy Cobalt. The Cobalt came directly in his lane and the Dodge locked up his brakes briefly then he went over the car. The Dodge had a Ranch Hand bumper replacement. The driver of the dodge, his wife and the 2 year old in the truck were unhurt. The Young girl of the Cobalt died.
I was waiting for the University tram when I saw it from maybe 30' away. I was SHOCKED
Keep telling yourself that the tin foil box you drive is safe..It may be in a roll over or a swerving event. Just keep your eyes on the road and watch out for other drivers. If a foil can comes into my lane, I'm NOT swerving. I want my occupants to be safe.
When I drive my 2600lb car, I CONSTANTLY watch out for other drivers because I could be the Cobalt.

 

[SteveSRT8]

It should be noted that cars that crumple are absorbing energy. The fact that they look crushed is simply energy that had to go somewhere.

If your car is relatively undamaged in a severe wreck, odds are you will be hurt worse than if you were in a well designed late model car with crumple zones.

 

[supton]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
If a foil can comes into my lane, I'm NOT swerving. I want my occupants to be safe.

When I drive my 2600lb car, I CONSTANTLY watch out for other drivers because I could be the Cobalt.


I feel like I have to respond--I suspect you don't mean this, but you make it sound like you drive with less attention when you drive your four ton truck, relative to your one ton car.

 

[Thermo1223]

Well in all actuality his dualie would not flip unless he traveled off-road. Swerving to protect the live of someone else who may have had an error in judgement is the human thing to do.

Driving around in a truck(tank) claiming you are the immovable force on the road and not swerving or avoiding an accident by other means is to put it bluntly, self-serving aholeness.

You know you will not injure yourself or passengers because of said behemoth but choose to deliberately try and inflict as much damage as possible on someone else's misfortune.

Like supton said I don't think you mean is the true sense but saying why bother when a tiny input might cause more or less damage to your vehicle but potentially save another life. It seems a little narcissistic.

We all constantly need to be aware no matter what we are operating on the road. The use of the term "foil can" seems a little misplaced as well. Crumple zones serve a real purpose for cars & suvs. Most HD trucks are already sitting higher than passenger car height and in a collision with a semi or other HD truck it would make little difference since again mass would win.

 

[DrDusty86]

I don't mean that I drive any worse with MY driving but if someone shoots across multiple lanes of traffic in front of my truck..they could end up road kill. I'm not going to risk my passengers's safely for some idiot. My car, I would be on the brakes with both feet in the same situation. My car is likely to suffer damage and could hurt my passengers could get hurt as well if I clipped the moron shooting across lanes of traffic for the exit ramp. My truck, I don't even cancel the cruise. I would turn that driver into roadkill for their stupid move, not going to swerve and end up skidding rubber side up at 70mph..NO THANKS.Thermo. REALLY? You must be kidding. put my passenger at risk for some ARHole that is swerving lanes of traffic ONLY concerned about themself. How do YOU drive? I'm genuinely curious. Do you erratically change lanes or your spouse? Sounds like it. I don't want to suffer injuries at the hands of those idiots.. PURE AND SIMPLE.
TANKS AMILLION..lol
Dusty

 

[Errtt]

Heard my Tucson SUV did well on collision tests, but don't know what/which tests were done. And don't know what "did well" means. For all I know, could mean, it wasn't the worst of em all. Could also not had Partial Frontal for all I know.

 

[asiancivicmaniac]

Originally Posted By: Errtt
Heard my Tucson SUV did well on collision tests, but don't know what/which tests were done. And don't know what "did well" means. For all I know, could mean, it wasn't the worst of em all. Could also not had Partial Frontal for all I know.


2010-2013 Small overlap: Poor

2010-2013 Moderate overlap: Good

 

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
BI chuckled, I never even let off the throttle. She would have been a speed bump. TOTALLY HER FAULT! I may have had to pick plastic out from the bumper of my truck but probsbly little else.


That kind of attitude may well be the death of you. Be careful and not cocky.

 

[surfstar]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
BI chuckled, I never even let off the throttle. She would have been a speed bump. TOTALLY HER FAULT! I may have had to pick plastic out from the bumper of my truck but probsbly little else.


That kind of attitude may well be the death of you. Be careful and not cocky.


I'll laugh when he reports getting bumped into by a Prius in a parking lot b/c it was silent.

 

[MK2]

Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
BI chuckled, I never even let off the throttle. She would have been a speed bump. TOTALLY HER FAULT! I may have had to pick plastic out from the bumper of my truck but probsbly little else.


That kind of attitude may well be the death of you. Be careful and not cocky.


I feel scared sharing the road with him while driving my Civics.

 

[DrDusty86]

LOL. just don't cut off trucks in those little cars. That's all I'm saying. the civics around here drive like MAD weaving in and out of traffic about a dozen times in a mile. Most people that drive small cars think it is all about them. It's not! That KIA, WHAT WAS SHE THINKING? That's got to be a rough way for a suicide.
You don't cut me off and you wont have me playing monster truck! You know how long it takes to stop 8700lbs from 45mph or 70mph.
DON"T turn right in front of a big truck.
DON"T shoot across multiple lanes just to catch your exit
DON"T tailgate a dually or semi because we don't see your foil can if you do.
DON"T turn left from the far right lane
DON"T go around a truck just to get in front of it and go slower than the truck was going
DO PAY attention to the turn signals on a truck.
Listen to the above and trucks and cars can drive in peace.

 

[kschachn]

Really? My experience is that it is reversed, pickup truck drivers think it is all about them and I think most of your posts reinforce that notion.

I have a neighbor that has a couple pickups and so do his sons, etc. They have what I consider a typical viewpoint, that "I'm cool because I drive a truck and you're not because you don't". Not only that, unless you drive a diesel pickup you really aren't as cool as you could be. The holy grail of pickups of course is a dually diesel.

The common attitude I see from them and many pickup owners is that people like me, with little cars need to get out of the way so they can drive like they please.

IMHO.

Originally Posted By: DrDusty86
Most people that drive small cars think it is all about them.

 

[DrDusty86]

You sound ENVIOUS! lol
When My truck is driven, it has a load on it or behind it. My normal trailer is a 45' goose neck that weighs almost 11,000lbs. I don't use my truck for play because it is WAY to expensive for that.
A Status symbol. BBBAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAHHHAAA right. When I'm not driving it, my truck stays in the barn.

 

[SteveSRT8]

I drive a truck that weighs well over 4.5 TONS every day for work. Savana 3500 extended body van.

It is my duty to operate it safely and try not to flatten the idiots who cut me off, brake suddenly for no reason, or veer into my lane unexpectedly.

But I will not kill myself to miss them. As far as stopping, these babies can really stop. Especially in the rain!

BTW, about 60-70k miles per year for decades, no accidents in over 10 years to date. I try hard every day to be a nice guy, but the dorks do make it hard...