Last of the old style STs bought on clearance. OCI was 8K, 3K more than usual in cold weather. Spun on Napa Gold 1516 and put in ST SYN 5-30 HM. Second tear found during cold weather. You get what you pay for. V6 Tacoma 130Kmi
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Old ST Torn
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These torn filter threads always make me think my current filter probably has a big tear in it. With they could be checked before use. I've been buying mobile one filters being they seem fairly decent.
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Penny wise, pound foolish. How old is the filter?
It is possible the OP did this. Never say never.
Originally Posted by R1jake
... With they could be checked before use. ...
Cartridge filters FTW.
I was not crazy about the old Wix made ST2 filter. The media on the ones I used never tore, but was very brittle (one I cut open).
... With they could be checked before use. ...
Cartridge filters FTW.
I was not crazy about the old Wix made ST2 filter. The media on the ones I used never tore, but was very brittle (one I cut open).
The only tear I've ever found in a filter was in a Champ-made ST3593 from my Mazda.
Seriously sky active ? Wow, is you tin foil hat on?
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One or two filters does not make much of a sample to draw any conclusion.
Clogged thin media can only take so much thick cold oil and/or a large flow from a revved engine. That said, one filter never yet seen with any defect is the Toyota Denso. No tears yet seen on a German Mann, Mahle, Ultra, Boss, or Platinum, Denso, among others. It's good to know which ones do although I doubt one would tear with my very conservative driving style and over maintained engine.
To the OP, thank you for the cut and post. Your time and the contribution of valuable information is much appreciated.
When a filter success is posted, the authenticity of the anecdote is never questioned and the filter is celebrated as a hero.
But when a failure is posted, something different happens. Every aspect and variable of the anecdote is questioned and or blamed for the failure, except the filter itself.
Rather than intelligent discussion, we end up with a number of single sentence posts that aim to invalidate the information in some way.
This thread, takes it to a whole new level. A member went so far as to accuse the OP of tearing the filter himself.
Originally Posted by skyactiv
It is possible the OP did this. Never say never.
Way too far.
When a filter success is posted, the authenticity of the anecdote is never questioned and the filter is celebrated as a hero.
But when a failure is posted, something different happens. Every aspect and variable of the anecdote is questioned and or blamed for the failure, except the filter itself.
Rather than intelligent discussion, we end up with a number of single sentence posts that aim to invalidate the information in some way.
This thread, takes it to a whole new level. A member went so far as to accuse the OP of tearing the filter himself.
Originally Posted by skyactiv
It is possible the OP did this. Never say never.
Way too far.
dnewton3
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We've seen a variety of brands have tears. The more we look, the more we find ...
I'm beginning to wonder if this phenomenon isn't a tad bit more common than we'd expect.
I'm beginning to wonder if this phenomenon isn't a tad bit more common than we'd expect.
Nothing to see here. Move along. Just getting in their 5 minutes of fame.
Originally Posted by BlueOvalFitter
Nothing to see here. Move along. Just getting in their 5 minutes of fame.
Kind of like putting in your five minutes of making a delusional post?
Nothing to see here. Move along. Just getting in their 5 minutes of fame.
Kind of like putting in your five minutes of making a delusional post?
Originally Posted by kschachn
Originally Posted by BlueOvalFitter
Nothing to see here. Move along. Just getting in their 5 minutes of fame.
Kind of like putting in your five minutes of making a delusional post?
Darn right
Originally Posted by BlueOvalFitter
Nothing to see here. Move along. Just getting in their 5 minutes of fame.
Kind of like putting in your five minutes of making a delusional post?
Darn right
Originally Posted by Lubener
The filter was used 3k past what it was designed for.
Not quite true with the caveat it meets warranty requirements and Toyota's recommended OCI can be 10K miles.
The filter was used 3k past what it was designed for.
Not quite true with the caveat it meets warranty requirements and Toyota's recommended OCI can be 10K miles.
While not excusing the tear and understanding that OFs should be good for the vehicle manufacturers recommended oci, I'd say the ST here a ~5k mile fci filter. At least that would be how I'd view and use them. There was another recent anecdote of a jobber/value tier filter, a Premium Guard also run 8k miles, posted here. Similar type results, and as comparison my comments there similar. The unused PG looked fine as comparison.
As for this being Wix, more accurately it's a Wix 'made for' WM Super Tech, to their specifications. Much like Wix makes the Auto Extra filter to their specifications. Anyway, these STs are no more. OP could try the current ST equivalent made by Champ which uses a combo valve. It says rated to 10k miles. I wouldn't use one that long, but that's the rating.
It appears the OP decided an oversize Napa Gold this time. For a similar oci/fci, I'm thinking the NG/(Wix) a more appropriate choice too.
As for this being Wix, more accurately it's a Wix 'made for' WM Super Tech, to their specifications. Much like Wix makes the Auto Extra filter to their specifications. Anyway, these STs are no more. OP could try the current ST equivalent made by Champ which uses a combo valve. It says rated to 10k miles. I wouldn't use one that long, but that's the rating.
It appears the OP decided an oversize Napa Gold this time. For a similar oci/fci, I'm thinking the NG/(Wix) a more appropriate choice too.
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