No More DIY Oil Changes

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Not from the city, but the home owners association, and if you don't comply, here comes the legal threats. I have one of those by-laws in my association. That said, I do the work on my cars, however, they are short jobs and none of the association fascists has had a problem with it. It's really done so the "enthusiast" in the neighborhood doesn't attempt to restore an old rust bucket in his garage and the rest of the neighbors have to stare at the donor car(s) on his driveway for the next five years (that's if he doesn't quit half way through).

The same goes for boats, racecar trailers, etc.
 
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I think the 16-25 year old crowd in 20 years will be restoring cars much more computer based as it will be necessary. 2 1/2 years ago when I was in high school doing a M3 motor swap into a `91 318is (OBDI to OBDI) that will be mince meat in comparison and is even today. Even for the `99+ 3-series you need the computer software to flush the brakes properly due to the DSC (dynamic stability control system) to open/close valves during the process.
 
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Originally posted by Steelhead:
Many top end housing developement restrictive contract covenants prevent any residential auto maintenance especially in driveway...
watch out for the gated entry club commie babushkas' grandmas turing your greasy butt in to the covenant police


Anyone telling me what to do on my own property can lick me.
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Originally posted by XS650:

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Originally posted by CBDFrontier06:
My sister lives in a neighborhood (far north Atlanta) that prohibits vehicle maintenance in the driveway....if you do it, you have to do it in the garage with the door down. I think the only exception is if you get a flat tire in your driveway, when you're allowed to jack it up and change it.

That shouldn't be problem except for a complete mporon, because a person would have to be moron to buy a house without reading the conditions they are agreeing to when they buy the house.


Yeah. And in addition, the existence of covenants stating what you can't do and have to do is one of the reasons that a lot of people
buy a place in a certain area. By and large, they like the covenants and are in favor of them. But then, they turn around and start whining about, and screaming fascism concerning, the 1 or 2 covenants that they don't like.
 
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Yeah. And in addition, the existence of covenants stating what you can't do and have to do is one of the reasons that a lot of people
buy a place in a certain area. By and large, they like the covenants and are in favor of them. But then, they turn around and start whining about, and screaming fascism concerning, the 1 or 2 covenants that they don't like.


Yeap, I'll live with them rather than the alternative where anything can and does go. I had a neighbor who erected a 50 foot wireless internet antenna to clear a tree line and was made remove it (nothing bigger than an 18 inch dish is allowed on the back or side of the houses), as well as another neighbor who squatted common grounds and it took the HOA $75K in legal fees to force him to remove the fence. And that's with by-laws; and can't imagine what they would have tried if there weren't any.
 
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Originally posted by ccs v2.0:
Yeap, I'll live with them rather than the alternative where anything can and does go. I had a neighbor who erected a 50 foot wireless internet antenna to clear a tree line and was made remove it (nothing bigger than an 18 inch dish is allowed on the back or side of the houses), as well as another neighbor who squatted common grounds and it took the HOA $75K in legal fees to force him to remove the fence. And that's with by-laws; and can't imagine what they would have tried if there weren't any.

I am for them for the most part, but some of our HOA rules are completely insane. Like, they require you to have your sprinkler timer out in the front of the house so that the landscaping company can regulate your water usage.

I can understand not wanting to see a chevy up on blocks in someone's driveway, but for the 20 minutes I have to change my oil I don't think I am really irritating anyone. I even had the courtesy to wait until my neighbor finished having their open house before I started work on the truck last weekend.
 
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That shouldn't be a problem except for a complete moron, because a person would have to be moron to buy a house without reading the conditions they are agreeing to when they buy the house.

Yeah. And in addition, the existence of covenants stating what you can't do and have to do is one of the reasons that a lot of people
buy a place in a certain area. By and large, they like the covenants and are in favor of them. But then, they turn around and start whining about, and screaming fascism concerning, the 1 or 2 covenants that they don't like.


If they read the CC&Rs before they bought and they are only having problems with one or two covenants that they knew about before they bought, then maybe they are only partial morons instead of complete morons
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I live in California, and I know when I bought a house I didn't get to see the CCRs until the end of the escrow process. I've got two HOAs. The CCRs are literally a small Tom Clancey novel. There aren't enough hours in the day to read all that legal jargon (and I read a lot of legal jargon every day by trade). A small portion of the CCRs in my master planned community are deemed illegal by state/county/federal law anyway, so you don't even know what to believe (I'll site DSS dishes as an example of what is outlawed by CCRs, but allowed by federal law - our cable is lousy out here so 80% of the houses have dishes).

Anyway, I guess I am that moron for buying a house that doesn't allow me to change my oil in the driveway. Still do it, and I await the day the HOA tries to put a lien on my house for doing it.

As BlazerLT so eloquently put it; “they can lick me” (as I wave to the security patrol in my oil soaked nitrile gloves)
 
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I love in that "Millionaire next door" book where the guy buys a lot from a desperate builder in the middle of all those HOAs and negotiates special rights on his deed.
 
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Originally posted by Laminar Lou:


As BlazerLT so eloquently put it; “they can lick me” (as I wave to the security patrol in my oil soaked nitrile gloves)


Be sure to wave with all 5 fingers.
 
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