Nissan DLR put 0w20 in car that specs 5w30. worry?

[Artem]

Originally Posted By: mx5miata
Better than driving a few 1,000 a quart low.


Who said it's a quart low in this situation?

It's better to have the vehicle PROPERLY serviced and drive around with the correct oil spec and oil level. All else is UNACCEPTABLE. I wouldn't allow it in a $100 lawn mower, let alone a $5,000 engine. We're talking about a $5 quart of oil here. Talk about being penny smart but dollar foolish.

 

[mx5miata]

 

[Artem]

 

[JoelB]

As a few other have said, the new versa's spec 0w20. I would drain it down to a safe level and run it as normal. But I would also skip that dealer on my next oil change. Ignore all these foolish people saying to get it out of your engine ASAP or it will blow up. Totally ridiculous.

 

[Vuflanovsky]

Originally Posted By: JoelB
As a few other have said, the new versa's spec 0w20. I would drain it down to a safe level and run it as normal. But I would also skip that dealer on my next oil change. Ignore all these foolish people saying to get it out of your engine ASAP or it will blow up. Totally ridiculous.



For the most part I agree...if use of the 0w-20 is basically a back-spec that's now being used in trade work and as factory fill, I'd just get it down to the correct oil level. Outside of that, it's the usual thick/thin, CAFE, yada yada B.S. on here. If 5w-30 is that important to something that doesn't see that many miles, is driven lightly, and will likely need an oil change due to time in the sump versus mileage, then I would change it...if not, I wouldn't sweat it.

 

[das_peikko]

Originally Posted By: ENGINEER60
That is NOT good.
It should be corrected immediately.
0w-20 is WAY too thin for a car that can useS 10w-30 in the summer.
You should NEVER go thinner than factory oil recommendations.
PERIOD


It's looking like you and me are the only two people that have any common sense on this board.

 

[mx5miata]

 

[mx5miata]

 

[JLTD]

Originally Posted By: bbhero
I would not worry about it at all. You father does not likely drive like Mario Andretti. It will be fine.


I can't agree.


Originally Posted By: zrxkawboy
The dealership, of all places, should use the proper oil in a 1-year-old car. I would request they correct their mistake.


THIS is the proper answer; dealer must be held accountable. Especially as they are the ones that will be involved for warranty work.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: mx5miata
Better than driving a few 1,000 a quart low.


Who said it's a quart low in this situation?

It's better to have the vehicle PROPERLY serviced and drive around with the correct oil spec and oil level. All else is UNACCEPTABLE. I wouldn't allow it in a $100 lawn mower, let alone a $5,000 engine. We're talking about a $5 quart of oil here. Talk about being penny smart but dollar foolish.




Interesting that you have the same style of posting that engineer has.

 

[Artem]

And your point is? It's the only way to get the point across in text.

I just hate it when supposedly educated BITOGers throw out idiotic advice to newbs who come in asking legitimate advice thinking that this forum will offer only the CORRECT answer, not the typical "oh don't sweat it, it's only 0.6qts OVERFILLED past the FULL line on the dipstick. No biggie. The engine builder is an idiot and doesn't know how much oil is required and when it's FULL. Who cares if the crank will be slapping the oil in the pan because there's TOO MUCH OIL in there. You'll be fine, go 15,000 miles".

 

[mx5miata]

who said they will drive 15,000 miles on this oil change?

are you an engine engineer?

do you really believe this is catastrophic and that automotive engineers have not thought this out?

Correct it's not good practice to be half a Qt. or so over. you're acting as if the engine was built for no room of human error there's got to be 10's of 1,000s of people driving around with either too much or too little oil it's "how much" is too little or too much that will define the term catastrophic.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: Artem
And your point is? It's the only way to get the point across in text.

I just hate it when supposedly educated BITOGers throw out idiotic advice to newbs who come in asking legitimate advice thinking that this forum will offer only the CORRECT answer, not the typical "oh don't sweat it, it's only 0.6qts OVERFILLED past the FULL line on the dipstick. No biggie. The engine builder is an idiot and doesn't know how much oil is required and when it's FULL. Who cares if the crank will be slapping the oil in the pan because there's TOO MUCH OIL in there. You'll be fine, go 15,000 miles".

I rest my case.

 

[Dave1027]

Originally Posted By: JoelB
As a few other have said, the new versa's spec 0w20. I would drain it down to a safe level and run it as normal. But I would also skip that dealer on my next oil change. Ignore all these foolish people saying to get it out of your engine ASAP or it will blow up. Totally ridiculous.


+1 to everything JoelB posted. Also, this is why I do all my own oil changes. Even on our new Toyota 4runner that came with free dealer oil changes. You know they put the newb kid/flunkie on that job. I don't trust 'em a bit.

OP, why not change it yourself? How hard can an oil change on a Nissan Versa be? Probably takes about 15 minutes.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Wondering if there's a service bulletin from Nissan that says it's OK for the dealer to back spec the oil? If there is, could be why the dealer used 0W20.

 

[Scdevon]

Just stay away from dealer quick lube services or any other quick lube places. The hack working the lube bay at the dealer makes minimum wage (by auto repair standards) and couldn't care less about overfilling your engine with the wrong grade of oil probably from a filthy bulk oil dispenser.

 

[mightymousetech]

Originally Posted By: CrAlt
No good deed goes unpunished. My father has been driving 30mins to his mechanic (used to live closer) and waiting for an oil change. Its a little independent shop with a good rep so its ALWAYS busy and has a wait.
So I made the suggestion "Hey why not just go to Nissan up the street? They advertise a cheap oil change."
Well I checked out the slip today and they "up sold" him to full synthetic and used 0w20. On top of that I see they charged for 1 to many quarts. I checked the car and it is indeed over filled. This little 2017 Versa only takes 3.4qrts.

What is bugging me is that they put in 0w20 when the book calls for 5w30 with 10w30 allowed if no 5w30 is available. Is this something I should bring up and get resolved or should I just let it go? I already suggested that he skips the dealer next time and just bring it back to his guy or I will change it.


Has Nissan back dated the spec? I know Honda/Acura often do that.

 

[umungus1122]

Using a 20w in stead of a 30w shouldn't hurt anything. I would be concerned about the over-fill though. I'd drain some out. I would not have paid the shop until I personally watched them redo the change though. Wrong grade, over-filling, and spilled oil over the engine is NOT what you paid for.

 

[CrAlt]

Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: CrAlt
Originally Posted By: Bryanccfshr
I would have them change the oil with the correct grade

Actually I wouldn't want these jokers touching the car again even for free. Wrong oil. Wrong amount. And they spilled oil all over near the filler. To sloppy to do the job right the 1st time so I don't trust them to do it right the 2nd time.

Really my only concern at this point is the 0w20 vs 5w30 thing. After seeing Nissan specs 0w20 for the 2018 versa with the same engine I am really starting to agree with the 2 above posters that it will be "ok" to let go for an 3K OCI.


Im going to have to agree with @ Bryanccfshr on this one. I would go back to the dealer, express your displeasure and unhappiness / concern of the work that the idiot 17 year old high school drop out performed on your vehicle and insist that their best and most experienced and actually QUALIFIED mechanic REDO the entire oil change, filter and all TO THE CORRECT spec that your vehicle requires. It doesn't matter if the 2018 model with the same engine now recommends 0w5. Nissan recommends 5w30 for your 2017 model, especially since it's still under warranty.

Tell the dealership to have the owner sign and notorize a document in writing that he will cover your engine replacement if something goes wrong due to their "certified mechanic" using TOO THIN oil in your engine.

Just because we at BITOG know that the engine will probably be fine in this case, it still doesn't allow these idiots to be pouring in the wrong spec oil into people's cars.

Well for warranty would I would have him bring it to the dealer he got it from which is about and hour away. They have a good rep and a much bigger more modern dealership. This whole bring it to the local dealer bad idea came about because this one is just up the road from him.
After work tomorrow I am going to drive down to his place to mighty vac out the half a qrt and let it go now that I know Nissan is putting 0w20 in the next M/Y up that is the same engine. I am not going to get my father all upset over it and I am not going to take a day off work to go rip them myself.

Originally Posted By: Artem

Waiting for what is basically a new engine made in 2017 to "consume" 0.6qts of oil is moronic. Not only is it probably NOT burning A DROP of oil at this point in its life, even if it does, you're still recommending the owner to drive around for THOUSANDS of miles with TOO MUCH OIL in the crankcase. I applaud your recommendation.

Unfortunately it does seem to need a 1/2qrt top up between the OCIs. No I am not going to let it go over filled waiting for it to use up that 1/2qrt.

Originally Posted By: Dave1027

OP, why not change it yourself? How hard can an oil change on a Nissan Versa be? Probably takes about 15 minutes.

Well considering I have a 9K lb lift and more tools then most repair shops at my house I would think changing the oil in a Versa would be something I could do. The issue is the old man likes to handle things himself. Why he wont ask me to handle it or why he can't do it himself anymore are for reasons above and beyond this forum. Let's just leave it at Getting old sucks.

BTW NO ONE touches my cars but me. I have complete OCD about my cars and even go so far as to do my own tires and alignments at home. My Jeep came with free oil changes that I will never use and if something broke under warranty I would strongly consider just fixing it my self if it was minor rather then have someone else mess it up

Thanks for the input everyone.

 

[mx5miata]

Can I use your garage next time I work on my car? I'll clean the tools when done.