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Originally Posted By: NHHEMI

I am no fan of Detroit. Too many dirty players on D and in their o-line. However, they played their [censored] off and had the game stolen from them. The ref's in that game should be suspended from any future playoff games and fined. Just a joke what they did there at the end. Detroit should be furious.


If anyone lost that game for Detroit it was their coach Jim Caldwell. Debate that picked up flag all you want, but Detroit still had a lead and had the ball in Dallas end of the field with just minuets to go. He failed to draw the Cowboys into jumping offsides instead of going for it on 4th down. His defense let Dallas convert 4th downs on the game winning drive.

Not convinced? Even Caldwell said after the game: "I DISAGREED WITH THE CALL BUT IT DID NOT COST US THE GAME".
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Mystic said:
I am no fan of Detroit. Too many dirty players on D and in their o-line. However, they played their [censored] off and had the game stolen from them. The ref's in that game should be suspended from any future playoff games and fined. Just a joke what they did there at the end. Detroit should be furious.


Because one bad call is the reason Detroit scored only 3 points in the second half. And that flag was also the reason Stafford failed yet again to make a come back against a good team. LOL.

FYI, the entire game was poorly officiated on both sides of the ball.
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I am no big fan of Detroit either and I don't like some of their players who have played pretty dirty. I do like Stafford their quarterback. But in my opinion that non-call of the pass interference was extremely questionable at least. I think it needs to be investigated.

If I ever find out that there is some kind of cheating in pro football I am done watching pro football. I will go to minor league baseball games and maybe an occasional Air Force basketball game at the Air Force Academy.

There is a referee in pro football and Peyton Manning has never won a game when that referee was in the game. We are talking eight games and you can put down Manning all you want but he is headed for the Hall of Fame.
 
Originally Posted By: A_A_G
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Mystic said:
I am no fan of Detroit. Too many dirty players on D and in their o-line. However, they played their [censored] off and had the game stolen from them. The ref's in that game should be suspended from any future playoff games and fined. Just a joke what they did there at the end. Detroit should be furious.


Because one bad call is the reason Detroit scored only 3 points in the second half. And that flag was also the reason Stafford failed yet again to make a come back against a good team. LOL.

FYI, the entire game was poorly officiated on both sides of the ball.


I agree 100%. Dallas had some bad calls, too. In fact every team does but the winners find a way to win. I tell my kids (who play high school sports) that officiating is "part of the game" and if you whine about "bad calls" it only hurts yourself.

Detroit had AMPLE opportunity to win, but their loss was self inflicted. I think after a day or two all the drama dies down and reality sets in. Detroit simply lost, LOL.
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Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI

I am no fan of Detroit. Too many dirty players on D and in their o-line. However, they played their [censored] off and had the game stolen from them. The ref's in that game should be suspended from any future playoff games and fined. Just a joke what they did there at the end. Detroit should be furious.


If anyone lost that game for Detroit it was their coach Jim Caldwell. Debate that picked up flag all you want, but Detroit still had a lead and had the ball in Dallas end of the field with just minuets to go. He failed to draw the Cowboys into jumping offsides instead of going for it on 4th down. His defense let Dallas convert 4th downs on the game winning drive.

Not convinced? Even Caldwell said after the game: "I DISAGREED WITH THE CALL BUT IT DID NOT COST US THE GAME".



They should have gone for it on 4th down. Then they backed that up with something like a 8 yard punt.
 
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: grampi

Dallas will lose in GB and people will still say Romo can't the win the big game...


You are probably right. I guess Romo will have to be consoled by his eventual inception into the NFL HOF, and his $110 Million dollars (or so, LOL).


Without any SB wins he's gonna have to do a hellova lot more than he has to get into the HOF...and $100+ million contracts mean nothing except to the person getting them....Jay Cutler got one and he ain't worth a darn...


don't forgot about his smokin hot wife. yeah, HOF if he don't get in, I wouldn't sweat it. He's got 100 mill to stash away to count when he's bored and retired at age 40
 
Come on guys. That call, at that time( 8 minutes left in the 4th ), clearly changed the game's momentum and directly contributed to Detroit losing in a major way. Yes, Detroit didn't do enough to win AFTER that horrendous goof by the officiating crew. Before that god awful fiasco they actually had done enough to win and were on their way to doing so before the zebras changed the course of the game. I am sorry, common sense tells us, had the PI call stood, the game plays out entirely different. IMOA. At the least it becomes monumentally more difficult for Dallas to win.

Had the PI stood, as it should have, Detroit had the ball in good FG range( Dallas 29 )up by 3 with a 1st down. Barring a turnover or a missed easy FG, if Detroit doesn't score a TD, they go up by 6 points 23-17 with about 4-5 minutes left you would assume at most. That means a kickoff and Dallas most likely starting around the 20yd line barring a big return which they hadn't had any luck at in the game up to that point. That is a far cry from where Dallas got the ball( their own 41 )after the shanked punt with all that time left to play with.

It just completely changed the game, the situations, and how both sides played. It demoralized the Lions and gave Dallas an advantage that was not earned. So while I agree that the Lions didn't do enough, IMO, it was a major contributor to why Detroit lost. Just don't see how anyone can say it wasn't a big reason, no the BIGGEST reason, why Dallas won?

My question to those who say it didn't impact the outcome is this...if the ref's let the call stand as it should have do you still think Dallas comes back to win? If Detroit runs time off the clock and scores another TD or even a FG do you really think Dallas was going to pull a comeback off?

For the record I am not a fan of either team. Dislike them both. I am however a football fan in general and what happened to Detroit was a 1st class travesty.
 
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Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: grampi

Dallas will lose in GB and people will still say Romo can't the win the big game...


You are probably right. I guess Romo will have to be consoled by his eventual inception into the NFL HOF, and his $110 Million dollars (or so, LOL).


Without any SB wins he's gonna have to do a hellova lot more than he has to get into the HOF...and $100+ million contracts mean nothing except to the person getting them....Jay Cutler got one and he ain't worth a darn...


don't forgot about his smokin hot wife. yeah, HOF if he don't get in, I wouldn't sweat it. He's got 100 mill to stash away to count when he's bored and retired at age 40


Romo in the HOF???
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Now that would be an even bigger blown call than the ref's picking up the flag in this game. Wow! That is nuts.
 
Thing is if Seattle would have been called for Pass Interference on that play, there is no way on this blessed planet the refs would have reversed the call. No way. No way you can say otherwise.
 
I would need to see the play again but at the time it occurred and when they showed a replay it certainly looked like pass interference to me. Now I am not a Detroit Lions fan and I am not a Dallas Cowboys fan. I am a Denver Broncos fan and in the NFC I like the Green Bay Packers and the NY Giants. I would like to see eventually every team make it to the Super Bowl and have their chance.

The announcers and a former referee all said they thought it was pass interference. That includes a former Dallas Cowboys QB who is in the HOF. He seems to do really good work not showing favoritism to any team and I am sure he had no intention of showing any favoritism to the Detroit Lions.

It looked to me that the Dallas Cowboys player was not merely face guarding the Detroit Lions player but made contact with him. How is that not called interference?

Again, I would need to see the play again. Maybe I would change my mind if I saw the play again. But it certainly looked like interference at the time and it did change the game. Because the Detroit Lions would have had a first down and in the very least could have used up more of the time left in the game.
 
If the Lion's could score touchdowns, blown calls and dirty players wouldn't mean so much. The Lions don't deserve to win yet.
 
Originally Posted By: NHHEMI
Originally Posted By: Mystic
That interference call where they picked up the flag was bogus. Even the announcers calling the game thought it was an interference call. A flag was thrown and they picked up the flag!


Bogus is an understatement. It bordered on clear bias and favoritism. Not only that but they picked it up AFTER the head official already announced the penalty and awarded Detroit a 1st down. Then to further make it fishy and questionable they made no announcement of why it was picked up. Are you serious???

There is no question it was PI. The Dallas player never turned his head and he made contact long before the ball was there. The ball was also a catchable one so even that can't be used to defend picking the flag up. One of the most basic, clear, and easy to see( even at full game speed for the ref's )cases of PI you could ask for. It completely and totally changed the game.

I am no fan of Detroit. Too many dirty players on D and in their o-line. However, they played their [censored] off and had the game stolen from them. The ref's in that game should be suspended from any future playoff games and fined. Just a joke what they did there at the end. Detroit should be furious.


My only question is this: which official had money on the game, and how much?
 
The penalty that was also not called and seen on tape clearly was that bozo Dez Bryant coming on the field without his helmet to argue that PI with the ref. Thats a PF and 15 yards.

I agree with NHHEMI....that flag being picked up completely changed the momentum. No way Dallas wins the game if the PI stands.
 
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
I love all this whining about the Cowboys! The haters are suffering right now, LOL!

I'm actually rooting for the Cowboys. Even though I picked the Packers to win because logic says Packers should, if there is an upset this week I believe the boys can do it. With that said, it really is not about us being "haters" but just our opinions. Even Jimmy Johnson on FOX admitted that if that call stood the Cowboys would have lost. He's very much not a hater(a hater of Jerry Jones) of the Cowboys. Sometimes the truth may just seem like hatred but you just gotta call it like you see it.
 
Originally Posted By: gfh77665
The hatred goes far, far beyond a BITOG forum. Its pretty much coast to coast right now. People are literally loosing sleep over it, LOL.


I'm not a fan of either team, and while I think ruling was horrible, yeah, the fuss people are making is ridiculous. It's the NFL, dumb calls happen all the time, even in the playoffs
 
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