300V also has zero manufacturer approvals.
The OP has a lot of misconceptions and misunderstandings in this thread. Another one is in the first post, you can't analyze an oil "to see if that was the right oil for wear."
300V also has zero manufacturer approvals.
True, do you think that is because of the extended drain intervals targeted by OEMs and that Motul might know this and not even try to spend the money for the testing?300V also has zero manufacturer approvals.
Couldnt we say the same about The Mobil 1 & Porsche deal? Mobil 1 milks the hell out of that with their marketing. 300V has a big shot of Moly 600-700 PPM and is ester based. Frankly, price does not really matter that much. I think it would be a wash over the ownership period of the car because I can get 300V using the FCP Euro lifetime warranty. Further, Motul even did a study showing a 1.5% gain in power over Mobil 1 0w-40 on a Porsche Cup engine. Free horsepowers!
This right here. It costs them next to nothing to get the approval and yet nadda. Their 8100 lines have the approval but not the 300V line.300V also has zero manufacturer approvals.
It's probably for a variety of reasons, one of them may be drain interval compatibility, but others may be limits for additive levels, ash, volatility....etc. Race oils are blended differently because the usage profile is expected to be different. For example, cold start wear and warm-up is part of the API and OEM sequences, how important do you think that is in a race oil? Keeping particulate in suspension over longer durations...etc. There are all kinds of different parameters that may receive different emphasis in formulation depending on anticipated use.True, do you think that is because of the extended drain intervals targeted by OEMs and that Motul might know this and not even try to spend the money for the testing?
The 300V is a racing oil. It is not recommended for long drain intervals which approval would require.
I'm not sure why else they wouldn't seek approval for it, but it is certainly more stout than supertech, and doesn't seek approval for different reasons
ha! Didn't think to look for that one. Is Mag1 100% the same as ST Euro?View attachment 74711
The only one of those that's actually approved appears to be 502/505 00
Problem is that no one would know since it doesn't have any approvals. Porsche approvals exist for a reason.Does that oil even have a proper add-pack to last...longer than a race?
That's a fuel additiveIf the oil you buy needs an additive from another company - you’ve chosen the wrong oil.
Ah. OK. Thanks.That's a fuel additive
Of course it depends...we talking an endurance race?Does that oil even have a proper add-pack to last...longer than a race?
Give me a break. We have to go back to this point over and over?Problem is that no one would know since it doesn't have any approvals. Porsche approvals exist for a reason.
Motul makes very good oils including ones with the appropriate approvals.
They are very clear on the purpose of 300V and have provided recommendations how to use it.
That point is critical. Absolutely criticalOf course it depends...we talking an endurance race?
If we're talking casual track days and daily driving, yes it can last longer than a race.
Give me a break. We have to go back to this point over and over?
Motul makes very good oils including ones with the appropriate approvals. They are very clear on the purpose of 300V and have provided recommendations how to use it.
Officially 300V is a race oil and should be replaced after every racing event.....which are?
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Right, it isn't meant for daily driving. No reason to use it in that case. But the OP asked specifically about track days.The oil is designed for a race. Motul makes a lot of claims about lubrication and protection, but, doesn’t say how long it will last in normal driving.
So, how long before it starts allowing acids build up and then sludge to form?
Sounds like a lot of sitting - exactly what you'd want a high TBN, low TAN oil for.Seems to me that the OP’s requirements (2,500 miles/year, five or six track days) allow a lot of latitude in oil selection. The oil will get hot. It’s not going to see a lot of miles, or cold starts, or short trips.
But he should replace it after every event?I'm not sure what else to say. The OP already decided to use it, which seems like a good choice in my opinion.