Yeah, I have to agree with you on the mtd cubs. It took them a while, but they have improved exponentially in the past few years. The seem to have finally let the engineers over rule the numbers guys. I've looked at their utvs for some time, but ended up buying a Polaris. There's lots to like about it but there's also some things that fail to impress. The new Cub uses the Webber engine. Another version use a Harley engine. It's not that I think Cub is the best product, but as I said earlier the features fit my needs perfectly. Hope it turns out to be of reasonable quality and reliability.