New Castrol SLX/BMW Group Partnering Effort

[pscholte]

If you like SLX and especially if you have a Bimmer, you might find this interesting: Look Here Here's an excerpt:

Castrol Introduces a New Revolutionary Oil for the BMW Group
Text courtesy BP Lubricants
edited 12-07-2004

‘Clean Performance TechnologyTM’
Castrol, strategic partner of BMW, have developed a new lubricant with `Clean Performance TechnologyTM` in close cooperation with BMW, which sets new standards in the industry. Castrol SLX LL04 0w30 is specially engineered to keep the engine and exhaust system clean, reducing harmful emissions to the environment. SLX LL04 is developed for the new generation of BMW’s with particulate filters and meets the latest specifications BMW Longlife-04. Due to its `Clean Performance TechnologyTM`, SLX LL04 reduces long term blocking of the particle filters and can be used in all BMW diesel and petrol engines (excluding M series). Castrol is the first lubricant manufacturer to bring a `Clean Performance TechnologyTM` oil onto the market.

To see what Volkswagon allows with Castrol SLX II, Volkswagon UK

[ January 16, 2005, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: pscholte ]

 

[Blue99]

Quote per Volkswagon UK

Castrol SLX LongLife II top up kits.
In the event you need to top up the engine oil between services Castrol have a Check it Kit containing: -
• 1 litre of Castrol SLX LongLife II
• Dip stick wipe
• Disposable gloves
• Disposable funnel
• Contained a black vinyl case attachable to the luggage compartment lining.

So now you can easily check your oil level and ensure that the correct oil is used
These kits are available from you Volkswagen retailer.

End-of-Quote

So I should upgrade my current method of keeping a spare quart of oil, in the plastic bag as purchased, behind my pickup truck seat?

Normally I pour directly into the valve cover fill tube, spill some of the oil, wipe the dipstick on the receipt & my hands on my pants!

 

[pscholte]

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Originally posted by Blue99:
Quote per Volkswagon UK

Castrol SLX LongLife II top up kits.
In the event you need to top up the engine oil between services Castrol have a Check it Kit containing: -
• 1 litre of Castrol SLX LongLife II
• Dip stick wipe
• Disposable gloves
• Disposable funnel
• Contained a black vinyl case attachable to the luggage compartment lining.

So now you can easily check your oil level and ensure that the correct oil is used
These kits are available from you Volkswagen retailer.

End-of-Quote

So I should upgrade my current method of keeping a spare quart of oil, in the plastic bag as purchased, behind my pickup truck seat?

Normally I pour directly into the valve cover fill tube, spill some of the oil, wipe the dipstick on the receipt & my hands on my pants!

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Blue99,

Yeah, I think you should try an "upgraded" approach!

 

[dilettante]

So finally BMWNA will have a Group IV oil. BMW HP Synth 5-30 was not a great oil.

Is this new BMW SLX the same as GC? Will it be green? I'm not so excited about it - I'm more interested in trying more visc oils like Amsoil 5-40, RP 10-40, Rotella Synth 5-40 to reduce valvetrain noise and oil consumption.

Cheers.

 

[buster]

Thanks for the link. Not sure if GC is the same as SLX.

I want to see the M1 EP 10w-40.

 

[dilettante]

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Originally posted by buster:
Thanks for the link. Not sure if GC is the same as SLX.

I want to see the M1 EP 10w-40.

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Looks like M1 EP 10-40 will have about the same visc@100 (14.2) as M1 0-40 (14.4) (which I use right now). If they use the same low visc basestock (that I read about in another post, like 2cSt or so), I wonder if oil consumption will still be a problem. 0-40 crawls right up my German cylinder and burns off, too much for my taste.

Cheers.

 

[jaj]

Gents

This is a new product from Castrol to meet the new BMW LL04 spec. Coincidentally, it arrives the same week as the new ACEA 04 specs as well, and it meets the new ACEA C3 level of performance.

Its distinguishing feature is "Low SAPS", which is an acronym (and a poorly chosen one, IMHO) that stands for "Sulfated Ash Phosphorus Sulfur".

The formulation is supposed to work in gas and diesel engines with exhaust after-treatment - catalysts and particle separators.

For more info, go to the Castrol Switzerland website - it's front page news there.

Cheers
JJ

 

[shortyb]

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Originally posted by dilettante:
So finally BMWNA will have a Group IV oil. BMW HP Synth 5-30 was not a great oil.

Is this new BMW SLX the same as GC? Will it be green? I'm not so excited about it - I'm more interested in trying more visc oils like Amsoil 5-40, RP 10-40, Rotella Synth 5-40 to reduce valvetrain noise and oil consumption.

Cheers.

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I don't know about that, seems ok to me

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001962

I think jaj hit it, mainly European market. But for me, I will enjoy the luxuriously luminous lubricious liquidity of my GC in the bimmer for now. Hows that for alliteration pscholte?

 

[dilettante]

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Originally posted by shortyb:
I don't know about that, seems ok to me

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001962

I think jaj hit it, mainly European market. But for me, I will enjoy the luxuriously luminous lubricious liquidity of my GC in the bimmer for now. Hows that for alliteration pscholte?

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All I know is that I have a noisy valvetrain and I'm blaming BMW HP 5-30 Synth for it.

There are better oils out there than Group III, BMW HP synth. That's all I'm saying. They should have improved it as the years have passed.

And, for what it's worth, all of my comments are anecdotal/empirical.

Cheers.

 

[shortyb]

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Originally posted by dilettante:

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All I know is that I have a noisy valvetrain and I'm blaming BMW HP 5-30 Synth for it.

There are better oils out there than Group III, BMW HP synth. That's all I'm saying. They should have improved it as the years have passed.

And, for what it's worth, all of my comments are anecdotal/empirical.

Cheers.

Fair enough, and I can't say that I don't blame you for thinking the source of your valvetrain noise stems from the oil/length of service specified by BMW. Several forums are alluding to this and alot have merit IIRC. My case may be an exception

but I won't know for many miles and this UOA does/did put to rest some fears I had. BUT.....I will be using GC when the ARX cycle is done AND, using analysis, determine a good, useful interval for it. As much as it may get touted, I still won't rely on a computer program to tell me when to absolutely change my oil, thats Terry's job

. Happy motoring

 

[dilettante]

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Originally posted by shortyb:
Fair enough, and I can't say that I don't blame you for thinking the source of your valvetrain noise stems from the oil/length of service specified by BMW. Several forums are alluding to this and alot have merit IIRC. My case may be an exception

but I won't know for many miles and this UOA does/did put to rest some fears I had. BUT.....I will be using GC when the ARX cycle is done AND, using analysis, determine a good, useful interval for it. As much as it may get touted, I still won't rely on a computer program to tell me when to absolutely change my oil, thats Terry's job

. Happy motoring

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Cool. Years ago, when I bought my 330Ci I didn't know anything about synthetic oil. It's not like they educate buyers about it either - and I used to change my Pathfinder's oil all the time (with whatever was on sale

) I even topped off my oil with Supertech Synthetic (oil is oil right

) Anyways, being the activist type, I was angry when I found out that BMW oil filters were falling apart, i.e. weren't lasting the 15k mile OCIs. (Don't know if Mann made those ill-fated filters - but, of course, they're good now).

Anyways, given BMWs quality issues (subframe tears, door seal separations, hood roundels falling off, Step transmission failures, control arms failing too early), I have been very suspicious of the BMW HP Synth oil. And I think the data support my position that they could have come up with a better oil for extended service. Look at your TBN results - low and you only took the oil 12,500. BMW oil should be more like Amsoil - good TBNs, even at the end of the OCI.

No one has really taxed GC yet with our engines, so we'll have to wait for some nice data (hopefully soon

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Also, I'm on the fence as to the loud valvetrain - some say these M54 inline 6s are always loud. And some say that M1 in particular makes them even louder. I plan to do some testing in the future to try to find an answer.

Cheers.

 

[pscholte]

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Originally posted by shortyb:
But for me, I will enjoy the luxuriously luminous lubricious liquidity of my GC in the bimmer for now. Hows that for alliteration pscholte?

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shortyb,

An effusive, exceptionally energetic, efficiently eloquent, ecstaticly effervescent elaboration (you done good!)

 

[Motorbike]

Quote:
"Clean Performance TechnologyTM’
Castrol, strategic partner of BMW, have developed a new lubricant with `Clean Performance TechnologyTM"

I am wondering if they are using the same type Fuchs base oil used in the 20wt ?

It sounds to me like more or less just a lower phos formula when it comes to additives but who knows .

The BMW dealers already sells the 5w30 cheap . I will await pricing on this new oil . Might be some cool stuff .

Can Castrol use this oil or variation of as a 15k interval marketing counter to the new Mobil line ?

These are exciting times for the oil nuts

 

[buster]

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These are exciting times for the oil nuts

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They sure are.

 

[pscholte]

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Originally posted by buster:

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These are exciting times for the oil nuts

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They sure are.

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buster,

Is he talking about us?

 

[Losiho]

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Originally posted by Blue99:


Castrol SLX LongLife II top up kits.
In the event you need to top up the engine oil between services Castrol have a Check it Kit containing: -
• 1 litre of Castrol SLX LongLife II
• Dip stick wipe
• Disposable gloves
• Disposable funnel
• Contained a black vinyl case attachable to the luggage compartment lining.

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I was in my next door neighbour's garage yesterday, and I saw a 1 litre bottle of Castrol SLX II sitting on the shelf (He owns a new Toureg). Seems like 0w30 is available here in Oz, you just have to know where to look for it.

 

[buster]

So is this the NEW GC-05?

 

[F1Crazy]

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Originally posted by buster:
So is this the NEW GC-05?

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Definitely not, I don't think you want LL-04 oil, check the TBN:
SLX LL04
TXT LL04

New GC might be either one of these 2:

Formula SLX Neu

Formula SLX LongTec

BTW, I have GC UOA from my bimmer if anyone is interested.

 

[Bryanccfshr]

So now perhaps my dealership will have a decent oil to change the factory fill with. I have been scared to have the 5w30 put in. Not sure what the factory fill is but it is nearly 7k miles and a year old.