My goodness, Mobil1 AFE 0w-30 is LOUD!!!

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Originally Posted By: exranger06
I have this oil in 2 vehicles and they're perfectly quiet...then again I've never noticed any noise difference regardless of which oil I used in ANY of my engines.
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Good point.

OP, your Engine is messed up.
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And I had a 1992 Grand Am. 2.2 or 2.3L, I forget. The "Quad 4." That car was... actually pretty sweet. Making me remember Pontiac... Hmmmmmm.

No oil noise to speak of. 10w30 MaxLife and was Done.

No Oil issue, ever, at all.

Would use 10w30 Maxlife again in a heartbeat, and call it a day, if i got that Engine. 10w30 burned off less than 5w30 as per Dipstick checks, which was thinner, so 10w30 it was.. In Winter too.
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Car died of Overheat/Thermostat issue. I completely forget how that happened, but it did. Think my friend Blew it up, drivin it hard. Them adding WATER on hot Engine, and -crack.- Temp gauge never was the same, beginning of the end, car ran rough, etc etc.
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It wasnt Oil related.

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Interesting.

I've run Mobil 1 5w30 and Mobil 1 0w30 in my Corolla and the 0w30 was quieter than the 5w30. Was it the quietest? No but did well. No MPG improvement over the 8k OCI but did okay.

I'll run the other jug this next oil change over the winter.

Bill
 
experienced the same thing with my honda 2.4l. dumped the oil after 500 miles. wasted 22 bucks :-(

Originally Posted By: ItsuMitsubishi
maybe the M1 is cleaning out the sludge that was making your engine quiet?


i doubt any oil can clean sludge immediately after an oil change.
 
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Try some Lucas oil stabilizer. It should thicken the oil up a bit making it quiter :)
 
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Originally Posted By: garlicbreadman
experienced the same thing with my honda 2.4l. dumped the oil after 500 miles. wasted 22 bucks :-(

Ive done that before. Experimentation.

Originally Posted By: ItsuMitsubishi
maybe the M1 is cleaning out the sludge that was making your engine quiet?


i doubt any oil can clean sludge immediately after an oil change.


Pennzoil, actually THREE Pennzoils, say they can clean out "Up to 40% on First oil change."

That worries me, since thats a LOT of unknown Slude to be suspended in an Oil!!!

Then there is the "Synthetic cleans away everything, including Sealer sludge, if its not formulated to do anything but clean" problem, to make leaks where no leaks were before.
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Originally Posted By: Klutch9
True. But the M1 AFE brings it to a whole new level, seriously. I've ran many different types of oil in this car: from thin to thick, conventional to high-mileage to synthetics, German castrol to chevron dino oil. They all performed about the same. AFE is loud... like taking the valve covers off (yes, my single bank 4-cylinder engine has 2 valve covers) and stuffing your head in the engine bay loud.


I have 3 jugs I bought a while ago because of rebate(s), if this is true I may try to return to WM to exchange for M1 0W20 or 5W20.
 
Thicker oil vs thiner oil...Let the oil run its course. Thicker oil might make a difference in noise but it also is a bit more frictious. I doubt it harms the engine.
I switched to PP 5w30 recently after 30k miles on M1 5-30. My engine(Sienna) got a bit quiter but it is much less pepier eventhough they both are 5w30. I prefered the M1 overal.
 
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True. But the M1 AFE brings it to a whole new level, seriously. I've ran many different types of oil in this car: from thin to thick, conventional to high-mileage to synthetics, German castrol to chevron dino oil. They all performed about the same. AFE is loud... like taking the valve covers off (yes, my single bank 4-cylinder engine has 2 valve covers) and stuffing your head in the engine bay loud.


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That DOES sound quite loud.

Sounds like the harmonic balance of your Engine simply HATES M1 AFE.

And you are saying it does NOT go away when Car is FULLY Warmed up (which only takes like 20 minutes or so, honestly, if being driven) ?

AND It STOPS doing this upon replacement with OTHER Oils?

Your car hates this Oil.

And you have tried Other M1s? Or you only know that other Non-M1s work fine, and this one doesnt?

Other cars may run their smoothest on it. If M1 AFE this has been heard before about it..

Maybe its only for new engines, and the AFE blend has something in it that makes old cars "Put your head in a Valve Cover" - Ouch This car sounds as if it does not have a Muffler loud.

Check your Muffler. I think that may be causing your noise.
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Hope Ive been helpful, Im up tonight.

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frictious


? Please explain this word frictious
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Originally Posted By: CaspianM
Thicker oil vs thiner oil...Let the oil run its course. Thicker oil might make a difference in noise but it also is a bit more frictious. I doubt it harms the engine.
I switched to PP 5w30 recently after 30k miles on M1 5-30. My engine(Sienna) got a bit quiter but it is much less pepier eventhough they both are 5w30. I prefered the M1 overal.


PP 5w30 is thinner than M1 5w30 at all temps.
 
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: CaspianM
Thicker oil vs thiner oil...Let the oil run its course. Thicker oil might make a difference in noise but it also is a bit more frictious. I doubt it harms the engine.
I switched to PP 5w30 recently after 30k miles on M1 5-30. My engine(Sienna) got a bit quiter but it is much less pepier eventhough they both are 5w30. I prefered the M1 overal.


PP 5w30 is thinner than M1 5w30 at all temps.

That what I thought but sure has made my Sienna less pepier. It poured thicker out of the bottle than M1 0W-40.
 
FWIW, and in an effort to Not start brand-bashing, so I wont name names, however in my Ford 4.6, I have noticed a differnce in mechanical noise-level in several differnt oils that I have tried. Did the other more "noisey" oils harm the engine? I am sure not, however I am a believer that differnt engines may well "like" differnt brands over others.
 
Originally Posted By: 5sfe91
Have you tried 10w-40 in your Grand Am? If so, did it sound better?


+1

My grand Am got 10w30 and it was fine. Coulda went 5w30 im sure, but 10w30 seemed to work good. (This in the 1992.)

Give 10W-40 a shot! Maybe your engine is screwed, and needs Cushion.

Maybe the noise is Piston Slap?
 
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Actually I'm not surprised by the OP's comment. I ran M1 in a van for close to 20 years, made a change to PP, then to Edge both oils were quieter in my 4.9L I6 Ford. I'd rather have less engine noise. All I did was change grades not brands.

OP finish the interval with the M1 and change back to something that was more quiet in your engine. No worries at all. Sometimes change is good, as in my case, other times its not.
 
Originally Posted By: Summerwind
FWIW, and in an effort to Not start brand-bashing, so I wont name names, however in my Ford 4.6, I have noticed a differnce in mechanical noise-level in several differnt oils that I have tried. Did the other more "noisey" oils harm the engine? I am sure not, however I am a believer that differnt engines may well "like" differnt brands over others.


+1. No idea what accounts for it, but I've noticed different oils (all within the same grade) make subtle differences, and the most noticeable are acoustic changes. Some cars seem to simply 'like', for whatever reason, certain oils over others (quieter, or peppier, or both).

-Spyder
 
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Use of creative nomenclature/descriptors is 100% legal here.




Sure, but I believe the correct term is "lubrilicious."
 
Originally Posted By: river_rat
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Use of creative nomenclature/descriptors is 100% legal here.




Sure, but I believe the correct term is "lubrilicious."


Lubricity.

New word from last night: Frictitious.
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Or was that Frictious?
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He was trying to say "Friction Producing." The opposite of Lubricity.

OK, Class! Recess! Gary you get an "A!"
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Im being silly.
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Seems M1 AFE is pretty LOUD in a lot of ENGINES!!! If more than three people say it..........
 
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