Originally Posted by eljefino
Originally Posted by Dave1027
It's the trucks that do almost all of the damage to the roads. Car drivers basically subsidize the roads for them.
Vote yes on Prop 6.
Absolutely. Wear follows the fourth power of axle weight. If trucking legitimately had to pay more than their fair share their marketing and lobbyists would be all over the facts. Instead they're hiding under the bed.
I don't care-- as a taxpayer I support infrastructure so commerce can happen and we can have the nice things of a functioning society.
I don't subsidize them by driving my car. I do by paying income tax. I might by paying $100-ish a year on my f150 that drives under 1000 miles a year, but that's the price I get for the luxury of a 2nd vehicle.
I remember, not too long ago, when we were talking about national security issues and the weak dollar caused by having 40% imported oil. Glad we're beyond that. Hope we can remember.
Are we talking about commercial trucks?
A couple of numbers:
2018 Ford F150 Extended cab 2WD: 4439 lbs
2006 toyota tundra crew cab 2wd: 4,600 lbs
2008 Jeep GC 2WD. 4,400 lbs
2019 Hyundai Kona Electric: 3800 lbs
2018 pacifica: 4,300
2018 sienna: 4,430 to 4,750
So, my 2018 4WD pickup is within 50 lbs of a sienna minivan. (the 4wd ford is 4800). Until you get into compact cars, everything now seems to weigh over 3,000 lbs. A civic weighs in at 2,700.