Meet the cheapest US states to buy a house (and the priciest states)
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True they do matter but they leave a lot of the more 'intimate' levels as well. The article makes it seem like $280k for a house in Chicago is the norm but they don't tell you the only houses you'll get in Chicago with that price is in gang territory with Chicago Public Schools.
When I was working on a master's degree in 2007, I researched why so many heroin deaths in affluent suburbs. The results were clear. The dealers' figured out that heroin could get "well off" kids to steal everything from their family, friends, and neighbors- to support the addiction. The dealers were giving the stuff away in the affluent areas- and regrettably it worked all too well. Many teenage deaths from heroin overdoses in affluent suburbs.
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That makes sense. Heroin, Cocaine, and lot of the hard drugs is easier to sell to a wealthy person who won't make a fuss about the price because he's 1) scared of the dealer and/or 2) doesn't have any other hook-up for the drug and doesn't want to look like a drug addict if they ask around for a new dealer.
I find it no surprise that NY has inexpensive homes. Values were up for quite some time in the big metro areas, people cashed-out by selling and moving elsewhere. Now there are empty homes in some towns. By the way, upstate NY is stunningly beautiful, an amazing place to visit, and stands in stark contrast to the entire greater NYC metro/Long Island and Buffalo areas.
When I travel to NY, I try hard to go to the nice locations. The 330 foot cliffs at "The Gunks" are closest for me, and I venture North from there. Unfortunately, like everything NY, "it ain't cheap" would be an understatement. I've paid $7/gal for gas, $50 fees to hike for an hour, and been forced to pay for 2 hotel nights when I only needed one. Not to mention, frequently paying for premium fuel and receiving regular and an attempted carjacking. Something is really rotten there...
When I travel to NY, I try hard to go to the nice locations. The 330 foot cliffs at "The Gunks" are closest for me, and I venture North from there. Unfortunately, like everything NY, "it ain't cheap" would be an understatement. I've paid $7/gal for gas, $50 fees to hike for an hour, and been forced to pay for 2 hotel nights when I only needed one. Not to mention, frequently paying for premium fuel and receiving regular and an attempted carjacking. Something is really rotten there...
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If you landed in a plane at 4 p.m. at LAX on any given weekday afternoon-and immediately left, when you get in your car it would take over 3 hours ( 40 to 50 miles) to go to a nice Suburb in either Orange County or due east to San Bernardino County.
I drove over a million miles on those roads-welcome to California.
I drove over a million miles on those roads-welcome to California.
Hey, at least Ohio has Cedar Point!
Some of the ranch sales in Montana can really swing the statistics.
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I think you can say the same for places like Southern Illinois. Safe, beautiful, Americana at its finest. I have worked in Southern NJ and also found the area to be charming.
Issue is, when you live in Northen NY, Southern IL, one does not get a vote on expenditures, entitlements, and polices. Every man, woman, and child, even babies born this morning, that have a domicile of Illinois, owe the state over 100k USD individually on just state entitlement obligations. I speculate if the people in Southern Illinois had a vote, there would not be a liability of 100k per resident of Illinois, just for state pension entitlements.
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I was surprised to see Ohio in the list. Seemed Ohio has done a better than average job as a state of keeping and attracting manufacturers/ producers of goods, when compared to neighboring states.
Which part of San Francisco? It has a micro climate and east/west of it has a different climate on the same day.
The part that the weather map lists the temperature of.
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The coldest winter is a summer in San Francisco - so said Twain I think.
I'll trade that for the coldest summer here.
The temperature differences between the Pacific side and the Bay side can be quite a bit. Travel over the bridges to the East Bay and it’s even more extreme.
Vallejo is a nice part of the North Bay. We have a home in Petaluma, just west of Vallejo a few miles from the rocky coast.
I imagine you know Petaluma; a truly tranquil place. Parts of American Graffiti were filmed there. In fact, there is an annual May "Salute to American Graffiti". About the only car show I attend anyore. Fun for all!
All it take is to cross the Divisidero tunnel in the middle of San Francisco and it goes from a cloudy 60F day to a sunny 75F day. The tunnel is only like 1000' long.
Yep. We traveled there about 25 years ago and the weather at Fisherman’s Wharf was really hot. I wore shorts and a T shirt. Then we went over to the Presidio and I was shivering. It was drastic.
Vallejo is NOT nice. It has so much potential in terms of location but it's overrun by angry, uneducated criminals and the police are non-existent. It's very sad. I lived and worked there for a year.
GON, you're scaring me.
I understand the allure of the CA weather, etc., but soon, electricity in CA will be rationed and when you are able to consume it, it will be $.60-80/kWh
In 5 more years, there won't be many small gas engines on the consumer level. Those that are still running will be traded on the black market for some high-dollar stuff. Those that maintain the things will be posting on forums across the country begging people for $15 in parts and willing to pay $500 to get them somehow, someway.
Do you know that a good many things aren't shipped from a business in CA to a private individual in another (free) state? There's been a few threads on this very forum where people are asking why they can't get a dealer parts department to ship a much-needed part to them in an eastern state.
It's going to go on and on. More people that have a brain will be leaving. These people that have stayed in CA, IL, MA, CT, NY, NJ, etc their whole lives because of family, that generation is getting old and the new generations don't sit still. They have no ties to anywhere.
I understand the allure of the CA weather, etc., but soon, electricity in CA will be rationed and when you are able to consume it, it will be $.60-80/kWh
In 5 more years, there won't be many small gas engines on the consumer level. Those that are still running will be traded on the black market for some high-dollar stuff. Those that maintain the things will be posting on forums across the country begging people for $15 in parts and willing to pay $500 to get them somehow, someway.
Do you know that a good many things aren't shipped from a business in CA to a private individual in another (free) state? There's been a few threads on this very forum where people are asking why they can't get a dealer parts department to ship a much-needed part to them in an eastern state.
It's going to go on and on. More people that have a brain will be leaving. These people that have stayed in CA, IL, MA, CT, NY, NJ, etc their whole lives because of family, that generation is getting old and the new generations don't sit still. They have no ties to anywhere.
FYI, your state went for B in 2020.
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