Penrite and filter of your choice
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Originally Posted By: Silk
What do your Z154's look like now ? They used to have no ADV, but they all seem conventional now.
All the Z154's I have used recently have been fitted with a ADV. I remember testing a used filter and nothing came out until I pushed the valve up with a screw driver.
So far I have used Repco, Valvoline and Wesfil-Cooper filters and they all had a functioning ADV. The wf-Cooper is a nice filter for the price.
What do your Z154's look like now ? They used to have no ADV, but they all seem conventional now.
All the Z154's I have used recently have been fitted with a ADV. I remember testing a used filter and nothing came out until I pushed the valve up with a screw driver.
So far I have used Repco, Valvoline and Wesfil-Cooper filters and they all had a functioning ADV. The wf-Cooper is a nice filter for the price.
Originally Posted By: BrocLuno
Penrite and filter of your choice
The Penrite has 1220 ppm Zinc and a TBN of 11 plus it's VW 502/505 rated.
It's KV100 = 13.5 cSt so it's right at the thin end for a typical 10W40, most of the others are over 14 cSt.
Close to a thick & high zinc 10W30, which I like.
Penrite and filter of your choice
The Penrite has 1220 ppm Zinc and a TBN of 11 plus it's VW 502/505 rated.
It's KV100 = 13.5 cSt so it's right at the thin end for a typical 10W40, most of the others are over 14 cSt.
Close to a thick & high zinc 10W30, which I like.
Shell!
Any one of the 5-30’s . Ennny, Meeny, Miny, Moe. You think it’s hot in Oz? The oil thinks it’s cold outside.
Filters: Ain’t, you got no Fram Ultra’s?
Filters: Ain’t, you got no Fram Ultra’s?
mmm I'd go with the semi's and then roll into the fulls of the same brand lower viscosity when the temp drops... depends on your OCI etc.
Or put them all in a circle and put a glass bottle in the middle and spin..... The bottle never lies!
Or put them all in a circle and put a glass bottle in the middle and spin..... The bottle never lies!
Use the PennRite
Thanks for playing everyone.
My plan was to use one of the new Castrol full synthetic products that has recently hit the Australian market. Either the Edge 10W30 A5/B5 or the Magnatec 5W30 A3/B4.
But the people have spoken, and you guys went old school on me. According to my tally, Penrite Vantage semi-synthetic wins, with Shell Helix Ultra in close second.
Therefore .....
OCI: 9650 KM / 6000 miles / 7 months
OUT: Mobil 1 5W30 + Repco Z154 filter
IN: Penrite Vantage 10W40 (SN & A3/B4) + Wesfil - Cooper filter
My plan was to use one of the new Castrol full synthetic products that has recently hit the Australian market. Either the Edge 10W30 A5/B5 or the Magnatec 5W30 A3/B4.
But the people have spoken, and you guys went old school on me. According to my tally, Penrite Vantage semi-synthetic wins, with Shell Helix Ultra in close second.
Therefore .....
OCI: 9650 KM / 6000 miles / 7 months
OUT: Mobil 1 5W30 + Repco Z154 filter
IN: Penrite Vantage 10W40 (SN & A3/B4) + Wesfil - Cooper filter
since it is summer in aussieland i would use the valvoline 10w40 and filter.
So, oil change is done, Penrite Vantage 10w-40 (as mentioned above).
But my old stash has two 10W-40 oils, Valvoline DuraBlend (DB) and Penrite Vantage (PV).
Both are:
- Semi-synthetic 10W40
- API SN/CF and ACEA A3/B4
KV40 viscosity
DB = 103.0 cSt
PV = 94 cSt
KV100 viscosity
DB =15.1 cSt
PV = 13.5 cSt
Cold Cranking (CCS) at -25C
DB = 6100 cP
VP = 6899 cP
Now J300 says a 40 grade oil has a KV100 of 12.5 to 16.3 cSt
and 10W has a max cold cranking of 7000 cP at -25C.
The DuraBlend seems to have more typical values, similar to other 10W40 semi-synthetic oils I can find (like Castrol Magnatec 10W40)
So I find the Penrite Vantage interesting, it's KV100 viscosity is at the lower end and close to a 30 grade, yet the cold cranking is at the upper end and almost a 15W.
It's like this PV oil is not far away from a 15W30 with a heavy add pack (TBN = 11.0 and Zinc = 1220 ppm)
BTW the old M1 0W40 also had KV100 = 13.5 cSt (with TBN = 11.8, Zinc = 1100 ppm and HTHS = 3.8 cP)
I also spoke to Penrite today, and they confirmed that the Vantage is a Group II and Group III only blend (it contains no Group I - as is sometimes used by others), and that all Penrite semi-synthetics have a minimum of 20% Group III and possibly more depending on the actual product.
But my old stash has two 10W-40 oils, Valvoline DuraBlend (DB) and Penrite Vantage (PV).
Both are:
- Semi-synthetic 10W40
- API SN/CF and ACEA A3/B4
KV40 viscosity
DB = 103.0 cSt
PV = 94 cSt
KV100 viscosity
DB =15.1 cSt
PV = 13.5 cSt
Cold Cranking (CCS) at -25C
DB = 6100 cP
VP = 6899 cP
Now J300 says a 40 grade oil has a KV100 of 12.5 to 16.3 cSt
and 10W has a max cold cranking of 7000 cP at -25C.
The DuraBlend seems to have more typical values, similar to other 10W40 semi-synthetic oils I can find (like Castrol Magnatec 10W40)
So I find the Penrite Vantage interesting, it's KV100 viscosity is at the lower end and close to a 30 grade, yet the cold cranking is at the upper end and almost a 15W.
It's like this PV oil is not far away from a 15W30 with a heavy add pack (TBN = 11.0 and Zinc = 1220 ppm)
BTW the old M1 0W40 also had KV100 = 13.5 cSt (with TBN = 11.8, Zinc = 1100 ppm and HTHS = 3.8 cP)
I also spoke to Penrite today, and they confirmed that the Vantage is a Group II and Group III only blend (it contains no Group I - as is sometimes used by others), and that all Penrite semi-synthetics have a minimum of 20% Group III and possibly more depending on the actual product.
Originally Posted By: Lubener
Just do it. For the time used you would have been done with it already. I hope you don't get paid by the hour.
Or that you get paid to read.....
Originally Posted By: SR5
So, oil change is done,
Originally Posted By: SR5
OUT: Mobil 1 5W30 + Repco Z154 filter
IN: Penrite Vantage 10W40 (SN & A3/B4) + Wesfil - Cooper filter
Just do it. For the time used you would have been done with it already. I hope you don't get paid by the hour.
Or that you get paid to read.....
Originally Posted By: SR5
So, oil change is done,
Originally Posted By: SR5
OUT: Mobil 1 5W30 + Repco Z154 filter
IN: Penrite Vantage 10W40 (SN & A3/B4) + Wesfil - Cooper filter
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