Japanese FP Plan

[Shaman]

Japanese FP plan
I am thinking about picking up some FP, and since today at work I had nothing to do, I made this little spreadsheet. Gas here is 129 Yen a liter, and cost to get FP here is $76.90. I am waiting for the China supplier to get up and going before ordering. They should be up in a month, so I have time to get baseline mileage on the car. It’s a Mazda MS-8. 2 liter V-6 with 4 speed transmission, ugly color inside and out but big, comfy, radio controls on the steering wheels, and projector headlights, and no inspection for over a year (will cost about $700 to get it inspected). It will be used for basically city travel, with probably at least one long trip of 2 hours (long in Japan terms). Here is what I put together. Please check for errors and let me know. Also, if you can make it more aesthetically pleasing/easier to read, have at it. I am planning on using this for every fill up, and changing mileage and currency numbers as I go.

Does anyone see any flaws in this? Right now the numbers I have in there are showing that I need about 1 mpg increase to offset price.

File will be hosted and posted when I get home.

 

[mechtech]

First, your English is better than most of our natives.
I'm not joking.
FP is a cleaner. It should make your engine smoother, and more efficient. A 1 MPG increase is probable, after a month or so.
FP is good for your engine, even if the costs don't balance in your favor, gas mileage wise.

 

[Shaman]

http://www.jason-long.com/Book1.xls

I am from America, just moved here a few months ago to teach English. I have used it before, but I wanted to really try to get a feel for what the stuff can do. Having gas at the equivalent of $4.88 a gallon for regular, an increase of 1 mpg is nice on the pocket book.

 

[Ugly3]

Shaman - I just looked at your spreadsheet. Only "problem" I see is that you indicate the initial dose to be 5 ounces per gallon, I believe 2 or 3 ounces per gallon are recommended (depending who is talking).

I have used FP now for several months (maybe 10,000 miles). I find the most obvious benefit to be the engine runnign smoother. As for MPG, in the states with decent gas I get a small MPG benefit (maybe 1.5 MPG), in Canada with poorer fuel I got a 5 MPG benefit (over 800 mile trip).

Good Luck!

 

[2000 MULES]

Ugly3 wrote: "Shaman - I just looked at your spreadsheet. Only "problem" I see is that you indicate the initial dose to be 5 ounces per gallon, I believe 2 or 3 ounces per gallon are recommended (depending who is talking)."

2 or 3 oz. per gallon is excessive. The directions call for 1 oz. per 5 gallons.

 

[Ugly3]

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Originally posted by Mike A.:
Ugly3 wrote: "Shaman - I just looked at your spreadsheet. Only "problem" I see is that you indicate the initial dose to be 5 ounces per gallon, I believe 2 or 3 ounces per gallon are recommended (depending who is talking)."

2 or 3 oz. per gallon is excessive. The directions call for 1 oz. per 5 gallons.

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I think he is talking about the first initial shock dose.

 

[Shaman]

Yeah, just changed it to read better.

 

[TooManyWheels]

I believe Terry recommended no more than 2 oz/5 gal. for the first tank shock dose.

 

[Sei]

Glad to know someone in the same boat. I ordered FP and began to use it from this week. Will see how it works in my Toyota car. I feel good about FP now. I feel my car run smooth. Will see more.

Sei

 

[Shaman]

I am hoping the CHina Dist. will be cheaper.

 

[Shaman]

Just filled up with gas.

In two weeks I went 319 km on 41.80 L. That makes about 7.63 kmpL or 19 mpg in all city driving.

Waiting for the China distributor to get going and check the price then.

 

[JHZR2]

I wouldnt expect very much at all...

I have noted no statistically significant MPG increases in 8 different vehicles, which we log every tank. Its a range of vehicles from 1.8L 4-cyl to 4.3L V6 engines. All run very well... None give better MPG.

However, fuel pumps do quiet on cars where they were buzzy before, UOA results improve, and the idle on the very small engine cars does seem to smooth out.

IMO, FP is primarily for lubrication, a secondary or ternary benefit being higher MPG in engines where cleaning was needed (same reaqson why some folks can drop an octane grade, but it isnt possible in set-advance cars like my chipped BMW).

JMH

 

[Shaman]

So in your opinion, just do a water suck a few times before my next oil change to clean it up and leave it alone? I am not worried about performance, I want to save some money with gas mileage. I will only ahve the car for a year or two

 

[oilguy3]

Do you like teaching in Japan? I have considered doing it but am a little nervous about the food (I can't stand sushi and everything they make on Iron Chef looks disgusting). Other than that I would love to teach in a foreign country.

 

[Shaman]

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Originally posted by oilguy3:
Do you like teaching in Japan? I have considered doing it but am a little nervous about the food (I can't stand sushi and everything they make on Iron Chef looks disgusting). Other than that I would love to teach in a foreign country.

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I hate sushi too. I am not a big fan of vegetables, and can't really cook. Check out www.theflyingpig.com look around. If you can live off of that, more vegetables then you can stand, most meats, and McDonalds and Wendy's, as well as some Italian, French, Chinese, Japanese, Burger joints.

Needless to say, I haven't gone hungry since I got here. Biggest problem I have is the red tape. Got in trouble for voicing my opinion on my website, so I will not state it here either on a public website

Teaching is great. Most kids are awesome. Picking up the language pretty well. There are some cute teachers, and any bit of Japanese you can write, read or speak but smiles and ghasts on faces.

Interesting setup, don't think I will be here for more than 2 years unless a member of the opposite sex convinces me otherwise.

 

[Steelhead]

2 years lease on car, save your money and invest it, higher return, US I bonds about to go over 5%. let the next owner worry about the engine.
if you can get out of the lease for a decent price, go for one of the small Honda 4 cylinders w 5 speed manual. or one of the Honda V6/electrics, 37 mpg here in the states.
man, a buck a roll for Costco toilet paper, what do the japanese pay for domestic?

ohiogasumasu

 

[Shaman]

haven't checked on toilet paper. i have about 8 rolls left from the last AET, and I am still on the first roll after 4 months. Maybe I am strange?

 

[Shaman]

FP and LC are on the way from Singapore. First overseas customer.