Originally Posted by Rmay635703
Originally Posted by LoneRanger
Most of our power generation is from coal or natural gas in the US. Therefore, an electric vehicle isn't really purely "green." Charging it burns coal or natural gas. Not to mention the effect on the environment of lithium mining in developing nations.
I call BS
https://blog.ucsusa.org/dave-reichmuth/new-data-show-electric-vehicles-continue-to-get-cleaner
Refineries use about as much electricity to make a gallon of gasoline as is required to drive an EV 20 miles, the supply side of gasoline makes more pollution than your car makes burning that gallon of fuel.
On EVs ...
EVEN where I live
Local energy requirements are still covered by 90% hydro and nuclear.
"Our Coal" plants are here because of lax local environmental regs that allows other areas to import our comparatively cheap electricity.
Power generated here goes as far as Canada to the north and Illinois to the south.
Sadly the recent coal hybrid plants were just a government subsided cash grab
Other areas use our coal plants while we get zero benefit and also are forced to pay extra on our bills for their construction costs.
We went from 3 cent baseline electricity with a $9.99 fee to 9-11 cent electricity with a $50 fee over a period of 20 years and worse yet our population and energy use are falling meaning zero need for these extra plants.
Your article looks assumes EV's are charged by rolled-in average generation, not generation on the margin.
Refiners aren't large electricity users relative to the volume of oil they process. Please cite the basis for your statement.
You live in Wisconsin? Please cite the basis for saying Wisconsin is 90% hydro and coal. Last I knew Wisconsin is pretty flat. We can't all move to eastern Canada to advantage ourselves of hydro so we can drive around pollution free.