How many do 10K OCIs

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Originally Posted By: tig1
How many here actually do 10K OCIs on 0-20, and how long have you been doing it? I have used M1 0-20 now for about 4 years with MC filters at 10K. How about you?


I've been using long OCI's for quite a while on my vehicles (with top tier synthetic oil of course). Over the years, my typical average OCI was usually about 8,000 miles (give or take).

My current vehicle (the 2009 C300) gets Mobil 1 0W40 at 20,000 km (12,500 mile) OCI's as specified by Mercedes. No issues, perfectly clean through the fill hole, does not burn one drop of oil between changes, and runs well all around. It has had this OCI since it was brand new, right from the factory fill.

My wife's Mazda 6 with the 2.3L 4-cyl gets 10,000 km (6000 mile) OCI's with synthetic 0W20 simply because it's easier to remember (since it's not my car and I don't drive it everyday). I could stretch it to 15,000 km (about 9000 miles) but it's harder to remember. With 10,000 km OCI's, there's no need to write anything down. Every 10k km, it gets an oil change. It uses about 1/2 a qt between OCI's (was a used vehicle, not sure of previous owner's maintenance, but runs very well regardless).
 
For many years starting with my '99 Passat, 15,000 km per the euro spec.

Saab had up to 18,000 mi. on the 2003-2006 9-3SS. I went between 14-17,000 mi.
On my V6 Saabs I went 15,000 mi. while manual now said 10,000. All was fine and I did several UOA's. I however always used a properly spec'd GM Long Life A-025 oil.
 
I'd sure like to go 10k OCI on my DD but the warranty recommends up to 7.5k for normal service.
Would be nice to get the OCs on the odo every 10k even.
The other 2 vehicles, one 99% in town stop & go, another near 90% in town stop & go, so I won't push 10k on them.
 
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Originally Posted By: blackman777
Tire rotation: Why on earth would I want to waste money paying the dealer to rotate the tires? That's silly. I prefer to save the money & then use it to buy all new tires when needed.
Because many new vehicles have tire pressure monitoring systems, and one needs to reprogram the wheels to show in the correct position in the display after rotating. Many folks just either don't want the hassle or not sure how to do it. So..... have a dealer or tire shop do it.

Not what I meant..... I was saying that rotating tires is silly.
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It's a waste of money (or if you do it yourself: a waste of time). I never rotate my tires and when they are near-done at ~70,000 miles, I just replace all of them. Faster, easier, cheaper.
 
Originally Posted By: raytseng
Originally Posted By: Tomcat_80
KrisZ: No, I didnt stop talking to them totally, just not about oil and tire rotations and checking tire psi. The relative of mine that lives near me; on his older acura(a 05' TL) he refuses to rotate the front tires which are like 4/32 to the rear and let me check the alignment for him. His theory that he told me really sternly was "I dont believe in rotating tires, when they get down to 2/32; I will replace them". I told him he better get a grip on reality and not drive his car anywhere out of his state i.e. like in NY, WV, PA, OH, etc


Rotating isn't that big of a deal. There's plenty of cars with corner-specific tires that don't get rotated at all.
He actually has a performance point. If you don't rotate, the tire is worn to match the natural wear of that corner, so should have the best contact patch (until it wears through the tread).

When you rotate, the new tire's wear pattern will not match the corner. So for a period of time, it will be riding on edge, and gives you less rubber hitting the road.

Rotation is mainly to promote even wear for purposes of saving money-especially if you can get rebates only with purchase of 4tires; not so much as for any safety or engineering factor.

There is another factor:
Some AWD vehicles can have mechanical problems if there is significantly less tread between tires. Some of those AWD vehicles (Like mine) are almost as nose-heavy as a similar FWD car, making a difference in wear greater than normal.

Some vehicles make tire rotation necessary because the suspension design leads to weird wear patterns. You know when someone doesn't rotate their tires often enough if they have a Ford Twin I-Beam, for example. Another common case is on some early 2000s Suburbans, Tahoes, and Yukons.

Anyway, my mom's 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee gets 10,000 mile oil changes on full syn, no engine problems at over 150,000 miles.
 
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