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Valvoline Restore and Protect, HPL, for an old 3.5 Ecoboost
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Montana?From my view they're already using a 40 grade. I don't know where they live & not certain if we're talking about Texas or Alaska winters but a 0w-40 is an excellent all year around grade for a turbo truck & give slightly better HTHS so little reason to move away from it as the HPL is doing a good job it seems. Sounds like it's cleaning as well. Apparently, this truck hasn't been maintained well so that 180k may be hard miles & would need any extra protection it can get. I'm not certain about what failure points are on that EB & perhaps it can use a 30 grade w/o extra wear.
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Appreciate the many contributions, much of which have outlined my very thoughts.
Some Q’s from above answered:
2012 3.5 exoboost, the first gen of engine, an absolute hoss to pull with BUT DI only prone to intake deposits (now walnut blasted clean), long/vulnerable timing chain (replaced at 101k mi). Bought from friend, kinda bought a lemon ? - sludged near death, but rolled the dice and had it scraped/cleaned 80k mi ago, HPL last 50k mi, and runs strong, powerful, and quiet. In shop this moment for a complete exhaust side replace/upgrade - small turbo size bump, high-flow downpipes & exhaust.
Uses no oil i can tell. Gets lousy 13-14mpg. Don’t plan to tow much/none this winter, expecting to put another 10k mi on before warms up. Yes, MT. Like rlsewhere at this latitude, nothing to be -20F, sometimes -40F over winter for week or two, and places i need to go.
Truck specs 5w30, but “they” have found better timing chain life on Xw40, so i stick with that. HPL 0w40 PremPlus is no doubt both cleaning generally, and terrific performer/spec. Does it clean rings? No factual proof exists. Not a onock, may just not be in the cards. I question if VRP 5w30 may well scrub these ring packs out in a season of use, and i can go on believing (hoping) this engine is as cleaned up as reasonably possible and work the snot out of it another 100k+ mi. It’s just, 5w30 is a small step backward. But for 10k mi of light-work winter use? Think i’ll go for it. Am not going to be towing heavy this season, nor even dropping the hammer on snow, so.
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I never thought about piston deposits and oil consumption either, until we bought a 2018 Audi Q7 with the low tension ring pack in it that gobbled a quart of Euro oil in just 400 miles buying it used and now uses exactly zero oil in 5000 miles. I now run Valvoline Restore and Protect in all our vehicles including 2 Audis and one 5.3 Chevy truck. I'm not going away from it either. Its going to be run on 5000 intervals in all three of them. VRP is the real deal and I have no desire to run any longer intervals and no desire to pay the high price for HPL or a boutique oil. What I see on the UOA's posted is Valvoline Restore and Protect is on par or actually a bit better on wear metals than HPL in the same engines in wear per 1000 miles, and wear protection is the #1 job of oiling the engine. Maybe I should reconsider that now that I find out how important it actually is to keep the ring lands and pistons clean in all these new low tension ring engines.
Prior to using the Valvoline Restore and Protect I always used Mobil 1 0w40 in my Euro cars, and Quaker State 5w30 full synthetic in the 5.3 Chevy trucks.
My household is driving two of the same vehicles/engines, one on VRP 5W-30 and one on HPL premium plus 0W-30. They are both ~30,000 mile 2 year old vehicles so there is probably not much cleaning to do, both were run on M1 AFE 0W-30 for 3-7k intervals prior to this. I have only done one 5k mile interval on both oils so far but plan to do this for several years.
From Polaris UOA the VRP does drop viscosity to bottom of SAE30 over 5k miles like any other $6/qt API SP. With same (or worse) fuel dilution HPL only drops about 2% from starting viscosity compared to about 13% drop for VRP.
The only noticeable difference so far aside from viscosity has been the particle count on the VRP after 5,000 miles being ~3x (3 iso codes higher) than what it was on that vehicle’s previous M1 AFE and the other vehicle on HPL. Hard to say if this correlates with cleaning but nothing was noticeably different on filter C&P, plus it was just one data point.
From Polaris UOA the VRP does drop viscosity to bottom of SAE30 over 5k miles like any other $6/qt API SP. With same (or worse) fuel dilution HPL only drops about 2% from starting viscosity compared to about 13% drop for VRP.
The only noticeable difference so far aside from viscosity has been the particle count on the VRP after 5,000 miles being ~3x (3 iso codes higher) than what it was on that vehicle’s previous M1 AFE and the other vehicle on HPL. Hard to say if this correlates with cleaning but nothing was noticeably different on filter C&P, plus it was just one data point.
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Always interesting seeing real results showing higher quality oils resisting the viscosity-reducing effects of fuel dilution better than other oils, despite many saying that it's simply a matter of physics.
Yes, but it also seems that they're both showing similar wear numbers despite that fact.
Not all symptoms of wear show up in a $30 oil analysis that can really only tell you about the condition of the oil, not the wear rates and particles >7ish um….
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