Honda 1.5T and Long Drains

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Originally Posted By: Brigadier
This lucky owner drained his oil, and 7 liters came out - oil/gas mixture.



.... and we believe everything we see on the internet? Since when? Probably somebody was upset & emotional, and poured in gasoline into their used oil container, took and picture, and claimed "7 quarts came out". Yeah, right.
 
In my case this engine’s problems were the deciding factor in not choosing the CRV when we were shopping last fall.
 
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: Brigadier
This lucky owner drained his oil, and 7 liters came out - oil/gas mixture.



.... and we believe everything we see on the internet? Since when? Probably somebody was upset & emotional, and poured in gasoline into their used oil container, took and picture, and claimed "7 quarts came out". Yeah, right.


It actually looks like coolant contamination to me. Fuel and oil should make a homogeneous solution. It would look like oil, not milky foam
 
Is the wear rate adequate?
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Good question. The equation with dilution and wear is kind of an amorphous one if you're changing the oil at 5K miles and the dilution level is less than the fear porn levels that model-specific forums would have you believe. God knows the forums I've belonged to were significantly "off" from empirical reality on several issues.

I'm not saying there isn't a significant issue with the 1.5T, only I'm not convinced that the average owner who changes oil at 5K miles anyway will be adversely effected to the degree that's promoted. That tub looks like something you'd get at Starbucks and not diluted oil that I've seen.
 
Originally Posted By: Brigadier
From the CR-V FB page:

"I just got word from my dealer that Honda is now going to pay for my 500 mile oil changes. A TSB has just been released in the USA and they informed me that fix will be issued very shortly. My dealer assured me Honda will be extending warranties as well. Being the squeaky wheel is working and the release of the class action is putting pressure on them."


lol id be at the dealer every saturday!!!! Actually, I wouldnt...my civic would be traded in!
 


That is one horrifying UOA...since when 120ppm of iron is considered to be normal wear???
 
The good news is that once the engine is hot you can pull the fuel pump relay and the car will continue to run solely on the fuel vapour contained within the PCV vapour, thus increasing fuel economy and CAFE scores
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I'm convinced that the picture shown earlier is from a car used exclusively for short trips in cold weather. Oil would not look like that if >90% of the engine run time was at full operating temperature.
 
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Oil sample has been sent off to Oil Analyzers/Polaris.

The M1 EP 0w20 had 10,188 miles. The oil level appeared to be normal and had a slight fuel smell, but nothing excessive. Results should be available toward the second half of next week.
 
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Use one of the top-tier synthetics (Edge, M1, PP/PUP) during the warranty period, then switch to 5w30 after it ends.

Also, I love WIx, but the 57356 is not one of their better designs. It has a tiny cartridge of media inside, and it will not last 10k. Especially on a TGDI motor. Plus, Wix recently switched to louvers on the 57356. If you or the owner insist on Wix, use the XP.

This is an application where I'd choose Fram over Wix. Besides Fram making the OEM filter (which is very close to the PH orange can with the silicone ADBV), they still use the round holes, and their 7317 filters contain more media than Wix's 7356. The Ultra is good, but even a TG should be good enough.

My filter preferences for your CRV, and most cars using the 57356/7317 can, in order
anything Fram, then M1, then Wix XP, then Hastings/Baldwin


That's what I was thinking. Then base my OCI on the UOA, and get an idea if the OLM is accurate or not.
 
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