I may buy some and give it a shot (the 5W40) - v. expensive though...~$100 for 6 qts!
Has anyone tried it?
Has anyone tried it?
High Performance Lubricants Euro oils...whose going to try it?
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Why would you bother trying it? Just because it's more expensive doesn't mean it's better. And better than what? It's not even on MB's approved list or maybe it's under something else. It just says meets or exceeds, not that it's actually MB approved. I would just buy Mobil 1 0w40 and call it a day. Or wait til next year when they have that $10 rebate again.
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B/c it's fun to try new things for you car?
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I might try the 5w30
How is that fun if it blows up your car and you pay premium dollars for it?
My only real problem is that there's no way to tell if it's actually better. And if it were better, does it really matter? The car will usually rust out, have some other major system go like a transmission, get sold or get totaled before the engine goes due to the oil used.
I'll stick with SuperTech 5w-40, because I can. 
If we had it down here in the states I'd run it in our Atlas.I'll stick with SuperTech 5w-40, because I can.
Really? They are a forum sponsor...I'm going with it will probably be ok....but...
On the is it better part, I'm curious how it would look in my car w/r to viscosity drop over a change, the PDS or the 5W40 shows a ~4 HTHS which is great.
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Who is bringing the HPL oil?
I gotcha. None for Wolf though since he wants to be a party pooper.
Already running it. In the Volvo. It is better. Absolutely.
Better, higher quality additives. More esters. Balanced to protect seals.
Wayne has over 20,000 miles running HPL in his Durango with very compelling results. Take a look at the discussion in his thread.
Too small a company to get MB Approval, HPL makes remarkably good products. Most of them are formulated for specific industrial machinery or racing needs, but their engine oils are carefully produced and tested, and yeah, they are better than Mobil 1.
I think I'll give the 5W40 a go at some point next year.
There are a few good things to mention. First there is a BITOG15 discount code which nets you 15% off. Next evidenced by the -71F pour point it is clear to see the utilization of PAO. Further when you factor in the use of Alkylated Naphthalene and ester and star polymers, you can begin to understand why we are not formulated for a discount store.
The oil will do an excellent job. It’s my job to make sure that happens.
Mobil makes a fine 0w40. We are not a good fit for everyone.
For those who share the same philosophy we’ll likely be good friends.
David
The oil will do an excellent job. It’s my job to make sure that happens.
Mobil makes a fine 0w40. We are not a good fit for everyone.
For those who share the same philosophy we’ll likely be good friends.
David
Thank you for the discount code.
I have some cold weather 5w40 CK4 HPL extra to bring makes me think I gotta reorder some for stock.
One question I have for you - my Sportwagen is tuned/larger turbo/sees hard use. I've used numerous common Euro xW40 VW502 00 oils and all of them end up with a decent drop in viscosity at the end of a change cycle. Will your oil hold up better?
I had the opportunity to tour the plant. Including the lab, a couple weeks ago.
Incredibly impressive.
Somebody like @MolaKule can give you all the technical (and chemical) reasons why their stuff is better, but simply: they use better ingredients and more of them. HPL is new to the PCMO market but they’re very well respected in the racing world.
Don‘t just take my word for it, though, read what Wayne had to say.
Wayne has a brand new Chevy with the Duramax. He’s not going to take chances with that engine. Read what HPL says the difference is:
Incredibly impressive.
Somebody like @MolaKule can give you all the technical (and chemical) reasons why their stuff is better, but simply: they use better ingredients and more of them. HPL is new to the PCMO market but they’re very well respected in the racing world.
Don‘t just take my word for it, though, read what Wayne had to say.
Dodge Durango 3.6L - HPL CJ-4 5w-20 - 26,015 miles on oil
Previous UOA: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/dodge-durango-3-6l-hpl-5w-20-21-079-miles-on-oil.344904/ This is a sample pulled from my Durango 3.6L with 137,615 miles total and 26,015 miles on the oil. Consumption was zero during this entire 26,000 mile run, which is a change from...
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New formula High Performance Lubricants HDEO 5w-40 installed in my new Duramax
@High Performance Lubricants just finished formulating their new HDEO line and I got a stash to run in the new Duramax. Formulating and lab testing took a lot of time and work that paid off with an even better performing formula than their previous HDEO line. Yes, there is real lab data from...
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Wayne has a brand new Chevy with the Duramax. He’s not going to take chances with that engine. Read what HPL says the difference is:
High Performance Lubricants PCMO Series
This is the first series of our PCMO groups. https://www.hplubricants.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/PC-Engine-Oil-PDS.pdf
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This is the area where a Star will provide great shear stability. Not that the OCP we use is bad (as evidenced in WWillson’s Durango). Stars are roughly 3 times the cost of a good OCP.
David
Pardon my density on this - what is a "star" and a "ocp". Thanks.