Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by Pinoak
Supertech has to pass the same tests the others do.
Some brands are stronger than others. Some offer better blends. Some offer better quality of those blends. Some offer better base oils.
Some brands are just better than others...... period ...... exclamation point
A perfect example is you and your neighbor buying the same exact vehicle on the same day and running the mileage to 110,000 exactly the same. You run Supertech oil and he runs Pennzoil. At 9
M today you-both start your vehicles. His exhaust on startup shows clear (Pennzoil). Your exhaust on startup shows blue smoke (Supertech).
Both live to 200K. But you need to add more engine repairs than he.
Long story short...... You get what you pay for ..... even with engine oils. SOPUS would love to sell their oils at Supertech prices. They cannot because their better additives and base oils cost more - plus they advertise to be the best (in certain areas) at that price-point.
There are different quality levels of additives and base oils. Doesn't everyone know that? A perfect example is walking to a Krogers and looking at the varieties & prices of packaged or canned vegetables.
Quality works the same at Krogers - as it does where oil is manufactured for our vehicles.
Now boutique oils are a whole different animals. I would love to run RedLine, Amsoil, Motul, Ravenol, Schaeffers.......etc..... super-duper premiums.
Wasn't there a publication from blackstone saying oil brand really doesnt matter? If anyone is going to have good unbiased data it would be them.
Unfortunately your post has too much hearsay and opinion behind it. I was hoping people might have some insight on why additive levels can vary so much, and if more is actually better and what not. I doubt API is going to let me interview an engineer or something. I sent warren an email since they are a relatively transparent company but we'll see.
Also there is a whole thing with psychological pricing,, with one element being that you can raise the price on a good to give the customer the perception that it's higher quality than it actually is.
Now with all the things that you have said, let me ask you this. How do you know who has the better quality blends, base oils, and additives? Also is it more likely that the guys who have monopoly will have the better ingredients or the guys trying to get more market share and prove them selves? We've seen time after time that brands like pennzoil and M1 have cut the quality of the oils, albeit they are still good oils.