Gas in the Oil

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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Wow, if the dipstick level went up by an inch due to fuel dilution, that's a lot of fuel. No way I would run an engine with that much fuel in the oil, hoping it would burn off.


+1. get it out of there NOW ...

Gasoline is NOT a lubricant. Because it's there, your oil is really thin and way below the HTHS value needed for good bearing protection ...
 
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Originally Posted By: zoli
Additional 1 strict rule was given by Renault: absolutely no - means: NEVER - heat up the car after ignition at any cold morning, just get started at moderate speed and rev (between 2000-3000).
All my cars in the past heated up by idling for 1-5 mins before driving.
Am I wrong?


I don't think that's bad advice from Renault, but it sounds to me like they're not confident that they fixed the injector problem with the software update.

I'd agree with that. There are lots of reasons to not idle, particularly excessively. But, what comes down to basically an outright prohibition on idling when cold sounds like covering for a flaw.

Maybe now we see another rationale for start/stop nonsense.
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Originally Posted By: zoli
Originally Posted By: Ohle_Manezzini
If more than 10% of volume, I'd change it out.

The estimated volume is between 0.5 and 1.0 quart in 4.6 quarts = approx. 11-21%.


Then I think you're assuming more risk than needed.
 
First of all, I'd get the oil sooner rather than later.

Second, I'm having a hard time even picturing how that much gas even ends up in the oil.

Most of my "shade tree" work is with older British engines, and specifically MGs. Not too long ago, I helped a friend with an MGB in pretty sorry shape. When he brought it to me, it was barely running. The carburetor was set very rich, had a leaky fuel diaphragm(not uncommon on this model carb), and the auto choke circuit was not completely disengaging when the engine was warm. The engine showed low compression and about 30% leakdown across all four cylinders which(aside from a leaky #3 exhaust valve-not surprising on an engine in this condition) we traced almost exclusively to bad piston rings. Although it was a "perfect storm" for fuel dilution, there was not an overly strong gasoline odor in the oil when we drained it.

BTW, my friend considered that lump enough of a write-off that he just left it in the corner of my garage when we changed it. I'm going to autopsy it one of these days and may rebuild it if the block is solid and the crank didn't suffer too much damage. Otherwise, I'll split the scrap price of a few hundred pounds of cast iron with my friend.
 
No comment: oil out after 2600 miles (factory fill + 10-20% gasoline) and in.
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