Gas from water?????
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You can find an answer to that topic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQhUaD-PIUM&feature=related
at the end of this video. I found this rather interesting.
Could it be , that all this water babbel at YOUTUBE, have some effect at MPG?
I guess since more and more people report about it, there must be something to it.
at the end of this video. I found this rather interesting.
Could it be , that all this water babbel at YOUTUBE, have some effect at MPG?
I guess since more and more people report about it, there must be something to it.
crank up the compression ratio, add steam injection and a good knock sensing system, and you'll increase mpg by 5 or 10%. you can even use cheaper low octane naphtha if you get the system right.
I'd suggest that you all bypass this stuff and go straight to the Joe Cell...It's explained on youtube, amongst other sites.
Once properly manufactured and charged, the Joe Cell produces without a current input.
These guys who think that they are getting energy from hydrogen are severely mistaken.
Once properly manufactured and charged, the Joe Cell produces without a current input.
These guys who think that they are getting energy from hydrogen are severely mistaken.
Originally Posted By: jonny-b
You can find an answer to that topic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQhUaD-PIUM&feature=related
at the end of this video. I found this rather interesting.
Could it be , that all this water babbel at YOUTUBE, have some effect at MPG?
I guess since more and more people report about it, there must be something to it.
There's a 1950's book that I read a few years ago "the Chemistry of Coal Utilisation", which goes into the various chemistries that can be used to extract energy from coal.
If you research "coal gas", and "water gas", you will understand how coal, and any other hydrocarbon can be cracked into CO and H2 (sometimes called syngas, but our town used to run on coal gas)...the water cracking bit uses the O from the water to get the CO, and an extra H2.
In theory, it is possible to crack hydrocarbon fuels and water to gain back many of the thermal losses. I doubt that it's possible to do a commute on such a system due to thermal lag, and heating of components.
You can find an answer to that topic, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQhUaD-PIUM&feature=related
at the end of this video. I found this rather interesting.
Could it be , that all this water babbel at YOUTUBE, have some effect at MPG?
I guess since more and more people report about it, there must be something to it.
There's a 1950's book that I read a few years ago "the Chemistry of Coal Utilisation", which goes into the various chemistries that can be used to extract energy from coal.
If you research "coal gas", and "water gas", you will understand how coal, and any other hydrocarbon can be cracked into CO and H2 (sometimes called syngas, but our town used to run on coal gas)...the water cracking bit uses the O from the water to get the CO, and an extra H2.
In theory, it is possible to crack hydrocarbon fuels and water to gain back many of the thermal losses. I doubt that it's possible to do a commute on such a system due to thermal lag, and heating of components.
electrolysis is the absolute worst way to produce Hydrogen. It is the most inefficient process and makes absolutely no sense unless you are getting unlimited electric power for free. Last time I checked, there is no free electricity anywhere.
The government will provide it for free.
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Originally Posted By: badtlc
electrolysis is the absolute worst way to produce Hydrogen. It is the most inefficient process and makes absolutely no sense unless you are getting unlimited electric power for free. Last time I checked, there is no free electricity anywhere.
True, but unless you want to reform it from natural gas or grab it from a Chlorine producing plant or oil refinery, you're kinda screwed. For low volume production with a sweet utility contract, you're good to go with electrolysis. There's no clean/green way to mass produce pure hydrogen in huge volume. I used to clean it up, liquefy it and distribute it for a living. Good times!
Joel
electrolysis is the absolute worst way to produce Hydrogen. It is the most inefficient process and makes absolutely no sense unless you are getting unlimited electric power for free. Last time I checked, there is no free electricity anywhere.
True, but unless you want to reform it from natural gas or grab it from a Chlorine producing plant or oil refinery, you're kinda screwed. For low volume production with a sweet utility contract, you're good to go with electrolysis. There's no clean/green way to mass produce pure hydrogen in huge volume. I used to clean it up, liquefy it and distribute it for a living. Good times!
Joel
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dustyjoe1 said:
Originally Posted By: oilyriser
The government will provide it for free.
YOU DA MAN!!!
The government will provide it for free.
YOU DA MAN!!!
forget water injection, how about Crower's 6-stroke engine?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crower_six_stroke
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060227/FREE/302270007
or Tata's compressed air engine?
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/02/tata_motors_sig.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crower_six_stroke
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060227/FREE/302270007
or Tata's compressed air engine?
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/02/tata_motors_sig.html
You can burn sea water by blasting it with high-frequency radio waves.
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