Fully synthetic 10w-30 Jaso mb oil required.
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Although blenders are not required to report, there is a list. Some have synthetic in the name, I wouldn't be too concerned about using a 40-grade if you find one.
Hard to believe.
I found this online, and it gives the specs Jaso ma, and mb meet. As well as API's ratings that are supposed to match those rating.,, https://www.oilspecifications.org/articles/JASO_MA_JASO_MB.php
Knowledge is the path to enlightenment... Compare Honda's MC specific oil with M1 Auto and SuperTech Auto to begin to see that either oil will meet and exceed your mileage expectations... it's your choice...
Why would he care about mileage?
And what do you look at in the spectrographic analysis that shows it meets JASO requirements?
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Amsoil and Lucas make one: https://www.amsoil.com/p/10w-30-syn...YAN55q_VvUIKOKZOe7DMyA4ZUoJpNga4aAgGoEALw_wcB
O'Reilly sells the Lucas stuff: https://www.oreillyauto.com/detail/...otorcycle-motor-oil-10w-30-1-quart/luc0/10708
MA or MA2 oils are typically required for wet clutch/ shared sump motorcycles. As your scooter does not have a shared sump, I doubt the JASO MA certification is important. I would use any 10w-40 synthetic oil of your choosing. Cheap synthetic and change it often.
How could JASO know for *sure* it meets any requirement when
JASO does not test oils??? They register oils based on manufacturer
data at $365 per oil x 1,537 approvals = $561,000 profit...
Objectively speaking JASO is not much help because even if the
oil doesn't meet a standard the submitter may be protected from being
identified in order to protect market share...
Quote JASO
"The Panel may disclose the results of market surveys in a manner such
that particular names of submitters and their oil products are not
identifiable."
Mercy ks... Just because someone rides an 125 doesn't imply they are not interested in longevity...
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So in other words you don’t have any idea how that spectrographic analysis is relevant. Your “mileage” statement kind of indicates that.
Do you have to be so argumentative? If you don't have anything helpful to add just move along. I think this is a topic that alot of people in the motorcycle world will benefit from.
So you think the random spectrographic analysis was helpful as it relates to JASO licensing requirements? In what way?
If I'm understanding the JASO MA vs JASO MB classification correctly, any oil that meets or exceeds the MA spec will also meet the MB spec.
www.oilspecifications.org
JASO MA and JASO MB classifications - oilspecifications.org
I wouldn't call that a "random" analysis. He was demonstrating that what's in the bottle is ultimately more important that what's on it, whether we're talking about letters such as MA, MB, or cute pics of little motorcycles.
Or go with Rotella T5 10w30. Blackstone analysis shows it to be an excellent wet clutch oil despite not having any MA letters or pics of lil motorcycles on the bottle.
I'm not familiar with JASO MB, but there's the Super Tech 10w30 "ATV" oil that meets the specifications of JASO MA2 and API SL, and ISO-L-EMA2
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Te...W-30-4-Stroke-ATV-Motor-Oil-1-Quart/308650978
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Super-Te...W-30-4-Stroke-ATV-Motor-Oil-1-Quart/308650978
But that is incorrect. The specifications it meets is more important than the ingredients used to blend it.
JASO MA2 is the polar opposite of MB, in terms of JASO specs. Now, I'm not saying an MA2 oil would not work in that motor, it would; but if the user is trying to meet the recommended spec, with regard to clutch friction, MA2 aint it.
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The oil analysis is more than just an ingredient list. The viscosity, flash point, TBN, etc., combined with the add pack (ingredients) literally is the specification.
And I misposted about MA being MB compatible. It's not. Thanks for the correction.